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[–] 81 points 6 months ago (4 children)

"Mr. President (Vladimir Putin), we went to the polls, we voted for you, we believed in you. And for a while, we really were protected, everything was fine. But at some point, it all collapsed."

I was fine with you invading and pillaging and stealing children but now that there are consequences for all of us, I don't like it anymore!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I agree with you, that it's a pretty fucked up statement to make. However, I always try to view these from the perspective of these people. They want help. The best way to get this help is by saying they like Putin, so he should be doing more for them. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't attack the only person who can help you.

    I have no way to know what these people actually did or believed. I think they're bad people for not at least speaking out sooner. However, I also don't take their statement as purely honest. I don't ever think desperate people begging for help are honest. It's the same reason I don't trust admissions of guilt to police when police are effectively torturing and threatening people. They'll say anything to improve their situation, whether it's true or not.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Cry me a soot filled river

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago

    Oh no, if only something could be done to prevent this

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago
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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    the older i get the more i believe that war is only possible because instigation nations keep their people in the dark about what war is. they teach us in history class that WWI changed civilian attitudes about dying in glorious combat and changed forever the military's ability to recruit. out in the streets of an instigation nation, i don't see it

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    First the poor Israelis defending themselves from Palestinian aggression and now this. Sending my thoughts and prayers to Russia.

    /s

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    The Motherland would never give you up, son.

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    [–] 58 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Don't think of it as the war coming home.

    Think of it as one point three million Russian casualties, followed by the war coming home.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago

    I do feel very sorry for the wildlife there. Anyway, slava Ukraini.

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  • [–] 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    To make this about the United States, this would be kind of like hearing a news report about Texans being shocked that Mexico struck back after America bombed them for a solid year and a half.

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    "Mr. President (Vladimir Putin), we went to the polls, we voted for you, we believed in you. And for a while, we really were protected, everything was fine. But at some point, it all collapsed."

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, except those who don't vote for him end up in some kind of trouble, or somehow aren't counted. They're forged elections. You know - that thing Trump is trying to Institute here in the United States.

    Trump won two elections with dubious results. It looks like this last one had a whole lot of mysterious votes in all of the Battleground States. Do not believe most Americans support MAGA.

    Do not believe most Russians support Putin, either.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    Nice! Thank you for the good news, OP.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    β€žI do not know whether to believe you, to believe the government, who to believe, what to think” - hasn’t she been watching the news? I’m sure government told her what she should be thinking.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    How is this leopards eating faces? I doubt the oligarchs running the show faced any consequences.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Because a large amount of people don't see Russians as civilians 😭.

    But honestly how does anyone cheer for causing chemical disasters in any city

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

    Russia started a war of aggression. A lot of Russians support the war. These civilians live and work in a refinery town that supports the Russian war machine (with oil and gas products).

    The people who work in weapons manufacturing are also civilians even though they are definitely legitimate targets by the laws of war (while at work, anyway).

    Collateral damage from the destruction of legitimate targets is a murkier issue, but generally considered acceptable as long as it’s not deliberately exacerbated.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    A lot of Russians support the war.

    But you have no idea if these particular Russians support the war.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Right, but they do support Putin (overwhelmingly so). The whole β€œleopards eating faces” thing applies just as much to them as it does to MAGA people.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Again, you have no idea if that's the case with these specific people. You have no idea if they're the Russian equivalent of MAGA.

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  • Putin’s support is much higher than MAGA could ever dream of. Something like 80%. Plus the people who don’t support Putin don’t actually support the opposition, they’re just politically indifferent and disengaged. That’s consent for the status quo in any country.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    You could read the article, you know:

    "Mr. President (Vladimir Putin), we went to the polls, we voted for you, we believed in you. And for a while, we really were protected, everything was fine. But at some point, it all collapsed."

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Which gets back to people being okay with them (civilians) getting killed and not at all leopards eating face worthy.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

    To be fair, unlike Russia, Ukraine is not bombing civilians, so while still shocking, I believe for them a bigger problem (edit: threat*) is Putin, not Ukraine.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Most would consider causing a chemical disaster harming civilians. I get Ukraine is trying to take out resources but let's not frame this as good for anyone

    https://blog.nwf.org/2025/12/when-the-smoke-clears-the-health-and-environmental-toll-of-refinery-explosions/

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    let's not frame this as good for anyone

    I believe for them a bigger problem (edit: threat*) is Putin, not Ukraine.

    Did I?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Ukraine is not bombing civilians

    While not directly hitting them doing a lot more to hurt them than it'll hurt putin

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (10 children)

    Well then, I guess the only thing I can say is don't let the leopards eat your face

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    For not cheering civilians getting killed???

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    no one, in this thread at least, is cheering, it's indifference. Russia can stop this anytime they want.

    Why is anyone in Russia bemused that Russian civilians get killed while conducting war against their neighbour, that's an unserious position to take, they are at least partially responsible for this, as this Russian points out.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/09/i-had-poked-the-bear-right-in-the-eye-my-fight-to-renounce-my-russian-citizenship

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    What? No, when the Putin sends you (those people, edit: not you personally, obviously) to the front-lines after "surviving" the horrors of Ukraine striking a refinery you weren't even close to (and those people are far more likely to kill civilians)

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    So yes the argument is kill them all to hurt putin. Thank you for confirming!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    How is your reading comprehension this critically bad?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You're saying all the Russians should be killed to prevent others from being killed, therefore it's okay for Ukraine to hit an oil refinery which is gong to kill civilians.

    Even added I should be included in being killed by pointing that out.

    How insulting me for that...

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You're saying all the Russians should be killed to prevent others from being killed

    Please quote where I said that or I will block you because my tolerance for bullshit these days is quite low.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    when the Putin sends you

    Edit Love when users refuse to acknowledge what they say

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    How on earth did that in your head translate to "I think all Russians should die to prevent more deaths"? My best friend is a Russian (edit: granted, he hates Putin too, but so does many Russians). I'm from East Europe. And I'm blocking you.

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