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[–] 20 points 6 months ago

The funny thing is, the government can't demand this information without a warrant. But they can certainly just pay for it with your money. And very few people will care. "I have nothing to hide" and all of that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Why am I not suprised?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    airplane mode + WiFi calling. you shouldnt be on your phone while youre driving, and most places have free WiFi, then install a Google free custom ROM to your phone such as LineageOS, iodeOS, GrapheneOS, RestlessOS GSI, or CalyxOS (whenever they come back)

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    pulls information from smartphone apps in order to let state investigators identify the location of mobile devices.

    They aren't using cell tower data, if that's what you mean. I'm guessing that unless you degoogle, your first suggestion won't do too much.

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    [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Not defending this bullshit but O title is "Nevada police may be tracking your phone’s location without a warrant. Here’s how"

    With relevant part

    Although Fog Data says that their data is made anonymous and “linked to devices … not people,” the company says the tool can help access information that “would otherwise remain hidden.” The company has a tool on their website that allows individuals to opt out of their databases.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    They can't be the only one doing this, though. It's going to be a game of whack-a-mole as long as the carriers are still allowed to sell this data. The only way that'll change is if some well connected politician gets outed or arrested because of it, probably.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Using a simple flip phone with no app ecosystem would fix this, right?

    I miss when the internet was a place you went in our house to use.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Using a simple flip phone with no app ecosystem would fix this, right?

    Probably not.

    The cell phone network will need to know where every subscribed phone is, in order to be able to route simple phone calls and text messages. In the old days, that might have meant very broad ideas of which areas were covered by which towers (often divided into 3 slices of 120° each from a single physical tower), and maybe some timing data to understand how much to offset the signal timing to make up for the speed of light.

    But each generation of cell phone technology has been about adding more capacity into each wireless frequency, and the towers have specialized tricks for transmitting and receiving on the same channel at the same time with different devices, by getting more precise about transmitting or listening in very specific directions and distances, with spatial signatures that distinguish between devices. It's all very cool and mathematically beyond my understanding, but the result is that the towers have much more precise location data about the actual handsets.

    So the cell phone companies have your location data. The question becomes whether they sell them to location aggregators who resell the data on the open market, and whether some of the buyers of that data are law enforcement agencies without a warrant.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I understand triangulation. I'm talking about limiting the context to an advertising ID, which is what is being tracked by law enforcement.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The EFF reporting about Fog Data Science's sources is unsure of the ultimate source of the data.

    But if you're concerned about the sources used by data brokers in general, collection and use of location data by corporations is pretty much unregulated, so it's fair to assume that brokers use every trick they can, including buying from anyone who sells the information. Which the carriers are widely believed to do, but are kinda hush hush about it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago
    [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    That’s it. Permanent lockdown mode for me. Set paranoia to overclock.

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    [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    First sentence is most important:

    Nevada quietly signed an agreement earlier this year with a company that collects location data from cellphones, allowing police to track a device virtually in real time — all without a warrant.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    If the police are funded by the government, then that information should legally be publicly available to anyone... this is what is getting towns to stop using Flock as well, when people start asking for that info too.

    Not to mention it's probably a Fourth Amendment violation too.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Sure they 'can' but I am pretty sure that is still illegal according to the letter of the law, but they aren't going to ever get in trouble for it because the supreme court is trash.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    airplane mode + WiFi calling. you shouldnt be on your phone while youre driving, and most places have free WiFi, then install a Google free custom ROM to your phone such as LineageOS, iodeOS, GrapheneOS, RestlessOS GSI, or CalyxOS (whenever they come back)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    The article doesn't say what methods the police in NV are using, so it might be effective against that particular approach, but in general, airplane mode doesn't prevent phone tracking.

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