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[–] 3 points 6 months ago

Stop buying things from Amazon. Evil company.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I learned this the other day when reloading one of my fire sticks with an updated app. I found plenty of strikingly similar android based sticks like the firestick that I plan to use when the fire sticks stop working. Not sure what to do if google disables side loading for android though.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    There's no reason to buy one over a Roku anymore.

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    [–] 114 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Stop calling it sideloading.

    Its called "installing software", on a computer, that you own.

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  • [+] -15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Everything is a computer nowadays. But the moment you make “installing random apps” an official feature, you’ll also need to provide support to your customers for this. That’s why we have devices where there’s no official way to install apps and we call the process “sideloading” instead.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    What? Why does the ability to install software as an official feature mean the os/hardware supplier needs to support that install?

    Since when has windows and any PC manufacturer ever done this?

    Is Google responsible for any android app that is installed either through the play store or any other way?

    This idea that allowing us to install what we like increases the burden to the provider is complete rubbish. It's simply to lock them into exactly their infrastructure. So there's no FOSS or any other alternative that doesn't exactly follow their arbitrary rules.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    I was merely explaining why using a different term for the same procedure makes sense in some cases. My post was not about the general practice of manufacturers trying to prevent people from installing non-sanctioned apps.

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of buying a Fire Stick? Pretty sure most people bought that thing as an affordable Android TV box.

    Edit: typo

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There's some inherent value of having competing companies trying make their Smart Stick an option on any TV. Amazon is more likely to sue, I don't know, Samsung if their TVs forced you to log into a Samsung account before using the Amazon stick. The average consumer sure won't be able to sue.

    (I don't know how restrictive smart TVs are, though, and at this point I'm afraid to find out.)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    True, but their main value proposition has been for a while that you can jailbreak them and stream pirated content on them, even for your less technical users. Honestly, it seems like Amazon is probably doing this for liability reasons rather than profit, as if profit were the motive, then they could increase the cost of the device due to "inflation".

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    A computer you can't install anything on? Wtf is the point in that

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Tell that to all the people who buy Rokus.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    In an ideal world, they would get 0 sales.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I talk to streamers every day for work. They will buy whatever they are told to buy. It amazes me how people will buy hacked firesticks or modified apks in an Android TV device for $300, and explain they "beat the system". If the long term claim is money savings, they'll believe it. If it's easier, they'll buy it. I stopped using Firesticks when I noticed they had constant traffic of 40kb/s even when not in use. Even data sharing would only be pulling at certain times I would think.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I just want to see people out there figure out how to rip applications out of Amazons walled garden and see how difficult it is to run them on regular Linux desktops. Maybe React Native here ends up being a win for Steam Machines and home theater Linux

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago
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    [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    We really need to kill sideloading as a concept. It's my hardware once I buy it. That's the way it's worked for hundreds of years. I won't tolerate this malarkey.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    sideloading

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    A friend says that the Onn devices still sideload and have more memory and storage anyway.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I switched from fire stick to onn box and it works good enough and can play emulators. I had to "side load" retroarch as the one in the play store didn't n't work as it wasn't the latest version. All I really care about is smart tube though.

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