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[–] 89 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's 5.35 million Irish people and 348 million Americans. The article is saying the rates are changing, and that's understandable due to the current political climate. But, it's just not feasible for most Americans.

Natalia Lange, a migrant support worker based in Crosshaven, county Cork, moved there from Michigan with her husband after the 2024 US election. Lange, who is half-Hungarian and has an EU passport

Step 1 to becoming an EU citizen: Be an EU citizen.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    America is quickly becoming a dystopia for anyone with some semblance of a conscience.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    A third of the country voted for fascists and a third didn't care. What exactly would anyone be fighting for?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (6 children)

    I mean, I get that. Fighting the good fight, etc.

    But my point being- not enough people give a flying fuck. I don't begrudge anyone not wasting more of their life let alone their kids' lives trying to fight for something that people who are in it clearly don't think is important enough to fight against.

    I'm honestly just tired of it all. Fight so long and people can't do the bare minimum to vote and you're telling people who don't sacrifice even more than they already have that they're a cuck? Pathetic attitude IMO.

    I mean here- https://www.npr.org/2026/04/16/nx-s1-5781002/georgia-focus-groups-trump-iran-war

    Look at the level of people we're working with here.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    OK man. Keep yelling at internet strangers telling them they haven't done enough. Maybe ill read about you in the papers one day doing something worth while. Probably not.

    Reading two comments and you know anything about me. Fuck off.

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    Oh look. An American edgelord. How wonderful you've shown yourself to the peasants, exposed your cudgel of morality to the savages! Just when we thought you were a dying species hurtling towards an untimely extinction.

    Have no fear Interwebs! Your daily browbeatings will continue in fashion with the age we live in.

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    [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I’d love to. The Irish seem like lovely people. Y’all don’t happen to need a dude good with electronics but no degree, would ya?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago*

    Realistically you'd need to get sponsored by a company unless any of your grandparents were Irish citizens (in which case it's straightforward).

    Edit: there are a decent number of tech jobs though so worth a look if you're genuinely interested.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Why the fook would you move to a third world shit hole country on purpose???

    Seriously. Don't move to the US right now.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I recently knew two people who came to the US recently.

    One was from India, and he came for the money. He has a low six figure job as a "product manager" and the CEO's toady. He's quite ignorant of US politics and history, so he's not really concerned.

    The other came from canada, but also has EU residency (or citizenship? unclear). He said he makes more money here. He's making mid six figures as a software engineer at a startup, with poor work/life balance. He can always leave, since his parents own a house in germany.

    Neither were coming here like an old timey tale of immigrants trying to find a better life.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I mean, wasn't the old time reasons for coming mostly about "money"?

    I feel like we tend to sorta play up the migrations from the past. I'm sure, especially earlier in history, there were more people looking for some type of freedom, but lots of people migrated for "opportunity".

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    its because they can flee if things get bad, indians are likely wanted in other countries as well so its little loss. Its just the high income that draws them here. indians that are migrating that arnt coming from money or not in tech might have more problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Depending on your field, pay. Where else do software engineers make around 200k?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That number is completely meaningless, as it does not include cost of living. Especially health insurance and lack thereof

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's definitely not meaningless.

    You can take 200,000 for a few years, and go back and ruin your old local housing market.

    That said - this comment aged like milk. CS is not a great career to be in rn thanks to AI

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)
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    From the numbers in that article it's about 1 in every 2000 Americans going in 2025. Surprisingly high rates.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    9600 last year, so less than 1 in every 30000.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    That's only to Ireland. It was 180,000 left the US in total.

    Further down it says:

    "at least 180,000 Americans" voluntarily left the US in 2025, which it said was a record high. 

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I'm technically eligible as my grandparents were both Irish citizens. The one negative is my wife and kids are not. My cousin who actually works for the Irish consulate said that if I had started the paperwork prior to getting married and having kids, they would be eligible. So like I can bounce out and leave my family behind, but I really don't want to do that.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Wait so it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?

    I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?

    That's my understanding. Are you doing it through the grandparents rule?

    I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.

    I wouldn't worry about it. There aren't any noticeable number here tbh and any I've come across who have moved here are sound.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Well my grandfather was Irish but also my mother was born in Ireland so it is either a parent or grandparent option.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Oh nice. I think it's fairly straightforward in that case, though obviously I've never done it. Your nearest embassy will be able to fill you in handy enough.

    If you do take the plunge and have questions drop me a line by all means but with an Irish parent I'm sure you'll have plenty of family here willing to help.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think it matters if they are a citizen or not. Every EU member state has some form of spousal and dependent program to bring them in, and if not, they could likely apply without and still get granted to stay. Just get the citizenship for yourself first and go from there.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Good call, I know an immigration lawyer. I might reach out to him, but I think he mostly deals with deportation stuff domestically, but he might know a bit or at least be able to put me in touch with someone who does.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    What if you divorced, became a citizen, then remarried her in Ireland? Would she and the kids be able to get permanent residency then?

    At least y'all would pass the "do you actually know each other" test.

    Immigration: so how did you meet this woman?

    You: well you see, it all started before we got married the first time...

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    My dad missed out on this by one generation. Our family came over during the Gold Rush, and he wasn't born until after WW2, so, yeah.

    Wish I could go. I'm only a stuntman though, no fucking way I'd be brought over any other way than a program like this. =(

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm only a stuntman though

    "Only".... That is cool as fuck tbh. How did you get into it? You should do an AMA

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ha! I'm not a 'big time' stunt guy I got into it a few years ago!

    I literally was acting in a small movie playing ice hockey, and the stunt coordinator was like 'you actually played right?' "Yeah man I played in college" 'Oh cool can I have you take a few big hits?'

    I was like hell yeah lets do it, and he showed me how we could pretend to do big hits instead of actually doing them, and then he was like 'hey you're pretty good at this you should do stunts!' so, I linked up with some stunt people and started learning to do fights and how to fall and all that fun stuff.

    Now, I'm 'in the wings' of one of the bigger action companies (you've definitely seen their movies), so I'm waiting for the call up to get to do their pictures!

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    In what will become known as The Great Immigration Rubberbanding.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Time to build a wall

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I'm not surprised in the slightest.

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  • understandable, have a good day.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    If I could convince my family to go, I would. If nothing else, I don't want my kids growing up in a fascist Christian hell hole. The brain drain is real too.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Sorry to hear about this invasion. When will they ever stop?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Dang, Cyst O'Donavan was really onto something here

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    No shit, America is 300 million people and Ireland is 5 million people... smaller than NYC. There will ALWAYS be more Americans going to Ireland than Irish going to America.

    This article infuriates me I can't even.

    Next in news "More people die of rabies in USA than New Zealand! Wow!"

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    The Irish need to build a wall or something. And this is coming from an American.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    While I get what you are saying I would argue that the Americans that are leaving and becoming immigrants aren't the shitty Americans that would never think of such a thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Two ways you get to leave this country “easily”:

    1. unattached with little to lose. Go work abroad and establish residency. Cost of the plane ticket to get there.

    2. lots of money. Buy a golden visa.

    For the rest of us it’s a major undertaking with lots of sacrifice, upheaval, risk, and difficulty.

    (Yes, this is a simplification and there are exceptions, but for the most part this is true)

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    TAKE ME WITH YOU PLEASE!

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  • It's only been the other way around for 249 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I keep meaning to really push my ancestry research to try for the Irish Grandparents connection toward citizenship. I know my Father's parents were definitely Irish, I just don't know the facts needed for that process.

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    My son wants to go.

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