Get ready for the lines going down on Monday...

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[–] 142 points 7 months ago (21 children)

So he wants to end the blockade by blockading the blockade?

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  • [–] 80 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    He heard Iran was charging for passage and wanted in?

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  • [–] 52 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Most likely this; he found another grift for himself to profit from.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Iran wants bitcoin? Now everyone needs to pay by trumpcoin.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    My guess is: There are some ships passing, so he's blocking them too. Forcing China and Europe to make them act the way he wants. (TL'DR He liked the Iran's plan and he's coping it, he's a fucking idiot)

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, he either wants a cut of Iran's tolls or he thinks completely blocking the strait will make the other countries mad at Iran.

    No, neither of those things make sense to normal human beings.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I think this entire war was so Trump and the admin could personally enrich themselves by taking control of Iran's oil in some way. They had success doing it Venezuela, and they were then convinced they could do it in Iran too. Attacking these countries would only produce limited, "well I agree, but don't like the way he's going about it" push back from establishment Dems and Western politicians in general. Israel "helping" is just a bonus, and provided further buy-in from the many Zionist politicians. They thought it would be a quick decapitation and puppeting like Venezuela was. I think Israel made things worse for the admin by bombing the people the admin had in mind for being the leaders.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You're not blockading me, I'm blockading you! I bet the gulf states regret giving him all those gifts now...

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  • [–] 104 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The US government doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing. Everyone’s had beyond enough of it already.

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  • [–] 62 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

    The madman theory is a political theory commonly associated with the foreign policy of U.S. president Richard Nixon and his administration, who tried to make the leaders of hostile communist bloc countries think Nixon was irrational and volatile so that they would avoid provoking the U.S. in fear of an unpredictable response.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_theory

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  • [–] 82 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    And in this case he actually is mad.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Nixon was pretty irrational himself.

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Nixon was corrupt, but he was also intelligent. He described on the Today Show, in 1994, Putin's rise to power, 6 years before it even happened. Purely based on being able to see how situations would unfold. And he was right.

    But nobody gave a shit, because the person saying it was Nixon. Nobody wanted to hear what that asshole had to say.

    I wish people today still held that same contempt for corrupt politians.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    He certainly wasn't stupid, but a rational person would have never bugged the DNC in preparation for an election where he was that heavily favored. He only stood to lose, but he was paranoid.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Nixon was a flower girl next to these goons in the WH.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Are flower girls notoriously sane?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    That's exactly what Putin has been doing for years. Unfortunately Putin is pulling it off quite well.

    We're just going to take Ukraine, and then likely whatever country looks easiest to take next. But if anyone else got involved in these conflicts I will totally launch my nukes all over the place! You just watch, I'll do it, I'm fuckin nuts!

    Don't even think about sending troops, because that would add fuel to an already dangerous situation (that we manufactured and could totally end at any time).

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Well, this shows where Adolf's allegiances lie.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Wait huh? So the US is now also blockading the strait?

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Joining in and doing what their enemy is already doing and which they're been unable to stop, is literally the only way the US and the Trump Administration can claim they're winning anything in this war.

    It's also pretty much how the Far-Right in at least America and Britain does politics: if civil society momentum builds up in a direction which isn't at all something they started or even wanted, rush to the front of the crowd and shout "Follow me!".

    The thing is, it doesn't quite work at swindling people into thinking you're a great leader when you don't have a thoroughly captured Press conveniently "forgetting" that they didn't actually started it and spinning that as "leadership" of and the result as a "victory" for the Far-Right leader.

    So at least outside the US and in the context of their war against Iran the whole thing looks incredibly stupid, maybe even derranged, even will the "geniouses" at the White House think this will make America and Trump look like winning.

    PS: There is one take which makes them actually seem intelligent (in the kind of "intelligence" a low-level thief would display) - that the actual individuals in the Trump Administration, including Trump himself, are doing it purely to personally profit from front-running Trump's announcements. This would work but the returns would keep on getting smaller and smaller as the Market stops believing Trump's words and/or expecting that sufficient people believe them for his words to cause market movements.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Yes, the only ships getting through before were Iranian or their allies like China. The real threat is if US allies like France or Japan cut separate deals with Iran to move their own ships through the strait. This would undermine the US position.

    Blockading the strait cuts off China and keeps other nations from circumventing the US.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Iran should announce they are blockading americas blockade of their blockade just to troll.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    So the US started a war woth Iran, which resulted in Iran blocking the strat, and now as punishment the US is also going to block it.

    I get that Trump couldn't think his way out of an unlocked room, but this doesn't seem like much of a strategy even by his low standards.

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    [+] -32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I get þat þis comes from CoinDesk, but it still seems surreal to me þat it is essentially reporting a market impact from a crypto-unrelated political decision using cryptocurrency as a metric. Isn't it weird? Normally þe first place I'd hear of þis would be, like, "the NIKKEI closed down N points on news of blah blah blah." Anyone else find it weird? No? It's just me? Ok.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Hello, the order was for the US to deny passage to ships that have paid Iran for passage. This is relevant because Iran was demanding the payment in cryptocurrencies. I hope this clears some aspects of the relationship up.

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