cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36435067

An usually wide adoption of rooftop solar in Aleppo, Syria.

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[–] 100 points 7 months ago (14 children)

The United States is SOOOOO far behind.

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  • [–] 66 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    American cities should have looked like this 20+ years ago.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    We can't even manage to do the apartment buildings, let alone the solar panels.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Build the mass transit first, then the apartments make sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    It doesn't work that way. Unfortunately, the demand has to exist first in order to get the transit approved; otherwise the car-brains call it "useless" and win. You have to force through the density and make it painful to drive before there's a critical mass of support for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Or... hear me out... and this can only occur in a society capable of critical thinking, so it would never happen in america, but...

    How about a phased-implementation in which transit and apartments are built concurrently, according to a plan aiming towards the final result.

    If you build the transit first, it needs a giant parking lot. If you build the apartments first, they need giant parking lots. If you build them simultaneously and plan them to finish around the same time, you don't need parking lots.

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  • [+] 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Lol this is not a case of Syria being just very environmentally concious and deciding to get far ahead in the solar game. Its a case of not having reliable electricity infrastructure so solar is the only and neccesary option.

    Is this ideal? No. Is it good that a lot of people are successfully relying on solar energy? Yes, and developed countries need to catch up.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I think you interpreted my post as praise for apparent Syrian environmentalism, rather than criticism that a country which has experienced so much strife has that, while the United States has nothing like that.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    I wonder if their government is subsidizing them in some way. But also looking at it most of them are on apartment buildings so it may just be that every tennant in the building chips in to a common fund to get them installed so they get lower electricity costs. Pretty smart investment since those panels last for decades and the cost will be covered way before they reach end of life.

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  • [+] -23 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    ISIS subsidizing solar energy. What a timeline

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    They aren't being governed by ISIS.

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  • [+] -12 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Correct, it's the other big islamist group, al-Qaeda.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Also wrong.

    Either you are misinformed, an idiot or just racist.

    If you wanna learn more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_transitional_government

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I'm neither. You're the misinformed one here, and the people who downvoted me as well. Go to the link you provided.

    • click the link to the article for Ahmed Al-Sharaa
    • click the link to the article for Al-Nusra Front
    • see "part of" section in the overview: Al-Qaeda

    Yes, they split several years ago. Insofar I have exaggerated. Are they substantially better in terms of authorianism and religious fundamentalism? I seriously doubt it.

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  • [+] -32 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Ah yeah, Wikipedia -- an ultimate source of symbolic truth, which points exactly at al-qaueda if you are not deliberately ignore it, morron

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Al Qaeda and Isis aren’t the same thing, even acknowledging al-Sharaa was a part of al-Qaeda for several years and Al Nusra is just a spin off of AQ. Al Nusra and Isis have been fighting one another for over a decade.

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  • [–] 67 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    Does no one remember this place being decimated by the US and Russia?? It's not unusual, its because there is probably a lack of reliable electricity infrastructure

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    I live there. I can confirm, I believe right now it's because our gov cannot pay for it. The price of power has increased by 800% since Jan 2026. Much more than the avg citizen can afford

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    So these are systems that work when the main power is down? Do people have battery packs too?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The US is normally the country that bombs the middle east but in Aleppo it was almost exclusively Russia and the Assad regime that did the bombings. Saudi Arabia (and to a lesser extent Turkey) were the ones who sponsored ISIS. The US for once actually sponsored the relatively good guys in the conflict by backing the AANES ("Rojava").

    This is not to say that the US had any moral reasons to choose the AANES. It was strictly geopolitics but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Why not because of that and because it's a great thing to have?

    Why does almost everything here seem to have a need to be absolute?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Same. Nothing in the original post hints that op was unaware of the war.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    After I read your comment and the title I might see an angle:

    Unusual adoption

    It's a stretch to interprete that considering the war and the need for electricity resulting in the easiest way to get access to independant electricity is solar (because water can't do it and neither can wind).
    But depending on the cultural lense it's
    A: Duh. Obviously we need solar because the US bombed our grid to dust
    or
    B: Huh. That sure is a high number of solar panels. My city doesnt have that many panels.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    That makes me so incredibly happy.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    If the whole world did this, all the energy corporations would be ruined.

    What are we waiting for?

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    I'll do you one better - why is Aleppo?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, Gary Johnson. I had such high hopes for him in 2016...

    It was my first presidential election as an eligible voter, and this was before the alt-right co-opted libertarianism. All I knew was that I hated trump, and I was being bombarded with anti-Clinton propaganda so I didn't like her either (but not for the right reasons, like how she's a neoliberal capitalist).

    I didn't know enough about Bernie at the time. I didn't know enough about leftism or the world in general to consider myself a progressive yet. I hadn't even entered the cocoon in which I later metamorphosed into a full-blown socialist throughout my mid-twenties.

    Gary Johnson... my first vote in a presidential election... sigh...

    Those were... simpler times...

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    But where is the powerplant so the USA military can bomb it to attack civilian infrastructure?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Man think of all the shit you could have running 24/7 off that and a bunch of car batteries

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    You don't even need to use car batteries (if you're referring to the lead acid batteries used in ICE vehicles).

    LiFePO4 and Na+ are both options available as high-capacity power banks. They're not even crazy expensive either, and they're safer and last longer than Li+ and other options.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    huh, those roofs look kinda weird and all the same- (takes a closer look) oh it's all solar panels that's actually really cool

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