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[–] 196 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Oh. Yeah. Someone should probably tell them that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump don't care about civilian casualties. In fact, they might even be more likely to attack those targets, knowing civilians will be there.

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  • [–] [S] 139 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    The US isn't the only audience for this defiant display.

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  • [–] 74 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    But the pedo is the one who will bomb them, and its clear he doesn't give a fuck.

    These people have balls. I wouldn't be there. I think it'll give him more reason to bomb them. Fuck this sucks.

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  • [–] 62 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    US citizens need to show this kind of boldness come the May 1st general strike by continuing it for more than one day.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Also, what moron specifies an end date to a strike? That's defeating the entire purpose of striking.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Step one is to get organized. Some morons know this.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Given the previous demonstrations, albeit too far and few in between, the numbers participating have increased each time.

    I personally am cynical with the current show so far, but I remain hopeful that critical mass will be achieved. Agent Orangutan must be stopped.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    you mean the 3 day weekend everyone is planning on taking? really hard to get enthusiastic about this when most engagement is lazy, but like i get why they are trying to make it as easy as possible to claim people are striking.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Remind me of the consequences when they killed 160+ schoolgirls on the first day of their attack?

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Among other things: the global perception of the US sunk to unprecedented lows, below even China. The US's most steadfast allies have all rejected requests for support. This is a different world now and it's uncertain whether the US can regain its prior standing.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It won’t for a few generations, and that’s only if we at least attempt to bring the architects to justice and go after MAGA and its supporters like the Nazis they are. If we fail to hold the common people who approve of and endorse this it’ll just be Reconciliation 2.0, they’ll stew in their hate and plan for their next overthrow.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    It won’t for a few generations, and that’s only if we at least attempt to bring the architects to justice and go after MAGA and its supporters like the Nazis they are

    It is refreshing to hear that there are some Americans who understand that.

    International relations with the US don't automatically become awesome after Trump is out of power (regardless how that exit happens).

    You guys need to fix the stuff he broke, punish his co-conspirators and fix the systems that allowed someone like Trump gain the power to do what he has done.

    That is going to take longer than a single reasonable president's term.

    The rest of the world needs to be able to trust that the USA won't go down this road again.

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  • [–] 58 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    If this happens we all need to be off our asses and in the streets. No memes, no shitposting, on the fucking streets. It’s already been way too long and far for this administration to continually hold the world hostage.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Organize committees in work places and represent as labor. Don’t wait for the union leaders who stifle the power of labor for their own gain any chance they get. The working class needs to take this into our own hands as a class…not as individuals.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Classes need coherency and leverage in order to make demands, which is typically done by coordinating leadership. We have leverage, but how are we supposed to realize any of it without class coherency? If you can’t, then it sounds more like you’re aiming to create a new political party… right?

    In another world, the government would help curate a coherent working class by strengthening and encouraging workers unions and coalitions between them.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    The working class has all the leverage we need…. We literally make the world run with our labor, and the world does not run without it. We do need leadership, but independent of the labor bureaucrats, most of whom sell us out or limits our class struggle. Workers can form their own committees within their unions to start mobilizing their power.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I feel like this has been tried before, though, in the 1900s. What makes this time different? Would we have a better strategy, now?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    They were successful in 1917. This is worth studying!

    The first step is to build a unified movement, rooted in the working class, that builds a revolutionary consciousness.

    Leftists in various parties/orgs need to unite around some basic principles and fight together. We need to unite around agreements while we continue to hash out differences for clarity regarding the way forward. Both can happen at the same time.

    To not unite around agreements is to be sectarian, and this is castrating the power of the left….in addition to some parties and orgs actively pushing a liberal agenda, doing nothing but helping to build illusions that the bourgeois parties will work in the interest of the working class.

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  • [–] 71 points 7 months ago

    Brave thing to do.

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    They are going to need those if they want a country after regime change. The people showing up to defend what is their’s is a good sign.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    Trump on how to unite a country

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Most likely, this won't even come close to stopping the psychopath Trump.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    For a bunch of far right fasicsts, it's truly remarkable how the MAGA idiots and the Likud+ maniacs underestimate ...nationalism.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If they think that will stop bombs, they're very much mistaken.

    Although I suspect the Iranian regime know that all too well, and that this will solidify people against the invaders. It's hard to side with people who've just turned your family into mince.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago*

    This is pretty much the only strategy they have. Although their country is one third as populous as the United States, their defense department has less funding than Arkansa's public education system. Outrage from the America public is their only defense against US military superiority.

    It's a good strategy. I'd be upset if my tax dollars blew up thousands of civilians making a human chain around a powerplant.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Hmmm, human chains ended horribly for the protesters a couple months back, I wonder how this will

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    trump anf isreal found the one way to rally the iranian people behind their government..

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    They should probably not do that. Trump doesn't give a fuck. They're just increasing their death chances.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    no but it helps the regime, by martyring them, and turning the public from other countries against israel and trump MORE. in the DS9 show, the CHangeling female, dominion proposed a plan to use meatshields, by placing cardassian citizens in around military compounds, power stations,,,etc. in order to turn the public against the rebels.

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  • [+] -48 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    If they don't show up they'll be executed by the iranian regime. I can't tell who is more evil in this war.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Well only one side has bombed multiple schools. But it’s ok to think they both suck. Because they do.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Go ahead and edit the title of the article then.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I phoned a friend on this one. Showed him this comment thread. Who is Iranian currently in Germany watching bombs go off in his hometown of Tabriz. He replies:

    "No man those protests started in the bazar of iran

    That's exactly what islamic regime is claiming and killed civilians based on this

    They say protesters were agents of mossad etc

    This artice and what trump was saying is about later anfter what happened on those days

    On 8 and 9th January there were nationwide protests in which thousands of people were killed on the streets by the government we don't have a number but it varies between 6000- 40000 thousands people based on different sources in those protests people were not armed at all"

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  • [+] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    No christmas. You could still fly out of Iran normally then

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  • [+] -25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

    You think they are willingly showing up? Iran kills protesters.

    Haha this place is no better than reddit. Iran loves killing its people just as much as the US loves killing their people. There's no good guys in this fight.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Don't be such a hoser, pal. You know broad strokes don't make for very detailed representation.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Those people are showing up because they are afraid of their own government. I know I'm right. A mom does not show up with her kids as a human shield willingly.

    If the iranian regime gave a single fuck about their people they would urge women and children to seek shelter.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    "I know I'm right" isn't the compelling argument you might feel it is. Wouldn't you be a vocal supporter of your community in similar circumstances?

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You mean if Canada was about to be bombed by Trump, would I be a vocal supporter of Carney asking women and young people to form a human shield on the patullo bridge for example?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No need to be a fervent supporter of the current administration to be a supporter of your community, and showing affront to the TACO.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean it's easy to say this now that he's chickened out. All those people could have died for zero reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Israel did cancel the concert that was supposed to happen on Oct 7th, and placed it elsewhere, someplace where the Hannibal Directive could be carried out without pushback. So I can understand your thinking behind it, but it's not how they function. For better or worse, they are a death cult, and Americans and Israelis are a killing cult, and the death cult seems to be winning morally.

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    These are Israel IDF talking points, the same IDF that ended up doing genocide in gaza. The enemy is both defeated and also so strong it can mobilize thousands of civilians against their will. And after showing fake concern for those "human shields" they exterminate them.

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