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The Year of Defenestration (lemmy.world)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/44833191

Oddly specific.

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[–] 58 points 7 months ago (1 child)

7. The act of throwing out of a window (something or someone)

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    • [–] 43 points 7 months ago

    It comes from wikitionary.

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    [–] 20 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Year of the Linux desktop!

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    • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Defenestration, the word with 6 meanings and 4 of them are the same.

    Btw can you buy laptops unfenestrated? I don't mean macbooks.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    yes, there are a couple of unfenestrated laptops you can buy. the companies i can remember right now are tuxedo, system76, and framework

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    • [+] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Ackshually it's from Neo-Latin ‘fenestra’ meaning ‘window’, specifically coined in 1620, presumably as ‘defenestratio’:

    A word invented for one incident: the "Defenestration of Prague" (May 21, 1618), in which two Catholic deputies to the Bohemian national assembly and a secretary were tossed out the window of the castle of Hradschin by Protestant radicals. The trio landed in a trash heap and survived, but it marked the start of the Thirty Years' War.

    ‘Fenster’ was borrowed from Latin as ‘*fenestr’ way back in the times of Proto-West Germanic. Which, to my understanding, is a somewhat unusual behavior for Germanic languages.

    P.S. As noted below, in German it's 'Fenstersturz', meaning simply 'windowfall'.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Interesting, the OED adds this:

    Compare post-classical Latin defenestratio (1620 or earlier, although the author claims to be coining the word). Compare also Middle French, French défenestrer to throw out of a window (1564), and German Fenstersturz (1626 or earlier in this sense; lit. ‘act of throwing from a window’; also more fully Prager Fenstersturz), the usual German name for the 1618 event.

    “Defenestration, N., Etymology.” Oxford English Dictionary, Oxford UP, March 2025, https://doi.org/10.1093/OED/9213494086.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Wiktionary actually lists both words as sorta-cognates (under ‘etymology’). However, Wiktionary has a habit of not listing any dates. But, Trésor de la langue française informatisé says that the 1564 source uses the word in the meaning of removing windows of a house — while also noting that the French-root ‘défenêtrer’ should be used for this meaning instead of the Latin ‘défenestrer’.

    In the typical blunt German manner, ‘Fenstersturz’ is simply composed of ‘window’+‘fall’.

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    • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Defenestration: How high ranking Russian officials are retired when they are no longer useful.

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Well well well, if it isn’t the Year of the Linux Desktop wink wink.

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    [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I did that last week. Now I'm on omarchy. It's quite handy. I even switched to neovim for my daily writing and coding. Loving the keyboard-focussed control.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't omarchy created by a fascist, racist, transphobic pos?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    I've heard that, but I'm not actively seeking out the cult of personality. He's made a good product though. He's also very active in the project and very active in the spotlight. His hunger for fame does not bode well for the allegations against him. It's usually those people who are the worst.

    But still, it's a good product. He might be an asshole,but I don'think he will become an Elon musk kind of asshole. But if he does, it'll be easy enough to abandon omarchy en masse.

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    • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    a better one *

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    [–] -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile, Dylan and Luca Boccassi are busy trying to make Systemd, which is in a lot of linux distros , into more of the same.

    Fifth column bastards.

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    [–] 30 points 7 months ago

    did an LLM get involved in your dictionary somehow? (why are four of these six definitions very minor rephrasings of each other?)

    Fwiw, the American Heritage Dictionary has only one definition; the other two are in wiktionary (which has citations for both).

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    [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    Certain Russian leaders defenstrate people who buck the status quo

    Certain computer users defenstrate Windows slop from their lives (Penguins)

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    [–] 8 points 7 months ago*

    Why is it oddly specific? "Fenestre" is window in latin languages, "de-" prefix is negation. Microsoft Windows is "Micro-mollis Fenestrae" in latin, but there is a even a latin language article about it on wikipedia: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows

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