Since becoming defense secretary, Pete Hegseth has found no shortage of ways to bring his strand of conservative evangelicalism into the Pentagon.

He hosts monthly Christian worship services for employees. His department’s promotional videos have displayed Bible verses alongside military footage. In speeches and interviews, he often argues the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation and troops should embrace God, potentially risking the military’s secular mission and hard-won pluralism.

Now the defense secretary’s Christian rhetoric has taken on new meaning after the U.S. and Israel went to war with Iran, an Islamic theocracy.

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[–] 42 points 7 months ago (8 children)

“We’re fighting religious fanatics who seek a nuclear capability in order for some religious Armageddon,” Hegseth said of Iranian leaders. “But from my perspective, I mean, obviously I’m a man of faith who encourages our troops to lean into their faith, rely on God.”

i believe more that he is a man of spirits than faith.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    As Johnnie Walker 2:5 says…

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Holy projection... Pretty sure Iran would only want nukes for the protection a country gets by simply having them. I've never heard anything about them wanting nukes for a religious Armageddon.

    On the other hand, Hegseth and others have been very fucking clear that this shit is about stupid biblical prophecy.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Just call it like it is. This is a crusade, just not sanctioned by the pope this time.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    If I recall, the first crusade was called because the Byzantine empire wanted help getting some stuff back from the Turks. Alexius Comnenus just wanted some military assistance, I don't think there were crazy religious undertones at that point (at least not beyond what was normal for that time). Then the Pope got involved and some wackos in Western Europe took things WAY too far.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago

    So we have American Christian zealots and Israeli Jewish zealots together fight Iranian Muslim zealots.

    Meanwhile the rest of the world just watches this circus of idiots and wonders how we ever ended up here

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  • [–] 61 points 7 months ago (30 children)

    A fake christian who just uses it to manipulate. I'm not christian but I recognize a manipulator and the soft brained snowflakes who blindly follow anyone making the right grunts and hoots of their faith.

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  • [–] 35 points 7 months ago (23 children)

    My brother in Baphomet, they're all fake. Religion exists solely to manufacture consent for authority. That's it.

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  • [+] 12 points 7 months ago (19 children)
  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (18 children)

    No, in your list only religious people told me I was going to hell when I was 12 because I wouldn’t disown my lesbian parents. The kind of corruption and evil entitlement that people get is indeed unique to religion.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Nope, my MAGA coworker hates gay people and is staunchly Athiest.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Ask him if he's also pro life? If he is he has to support gay people. They get less abortions than anyone!

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm sure he'd pivot away to something else, considering that he pivoted from talking about trans rights to try and say "I shouldn't have to worry about walking with my daughters down the street and walking into two dudes making out." Basically suggesting that gay and trans people are the source of moral decay in the U.S.

    The guy is the literal poster child of boomer moral decay, by the way. Digustingly obese, entitled, racist, MAGA.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Your coworker being the religious equivalent of a log cabin Republican doesn’t change anything as far as I can see, the MAGA movement is still fueled by Christian overtones.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The kind of corruption and evil entitlement that people get is indeed unique to religion.

    That sure as hell sounds like goalposts shifting to me.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I’m not goal post shifting. Nor am I interested in having a conversation about whose asshole opinion stinks worse. Have a good day.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago*

    You absolutely did, but let's take your statement to its logical conclusion.

    Roughly 85% of the world is religious. By your definition, they are simply all evil. So why then would you care about Venezuela being bombed, Iran being bombed, literally anywhere being bombed — they're evil! Anywhere that has religious people is fair game, because religion is evil.

    It's almost like making blanket generalizations about most of the world is just fucking stupid. Weird how that worked out.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (7 children)

    What does that have to do with anything I said? Nobody was talking about domestic abuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    You made a list. I was commenting on the list elements vs each other, not anything that wasn’t on the list. My comment was not intended to prove or disapprove any point since yours and mine were both opinions.

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    Disagreement isn’t proof or disproof or even an attempt at such. At this time I’m completely lost as to your point. You didn’t say every structure, you made a list and I felt that one of those things was not like the others. That one of those things does have a unique form of evil attached to it. I really don’t understand why you’re trying to add more to this conversation than actually exists.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Religion exists solely to manufacture consent for authority. That’s it.

    No...

    It was a way to instill morals before public education existed.

    We don't use religion for morals, and we don't use public education for it either.

    And people still act fucking shocked people don't have morals.

    They're not innate, humans aren't better than other animals.

    And insisting that attempting to teach morals is pointless is only going to cause issues.

    You might not need religion, I know I don't, but that's human variation. Some people fucking need it or they're problems for the rest of us.

    Like, your comment is the most ironic thing I've seen in a very long time. You don't understand that your the problem and a complete lack of human empathy prevents you from understanding not everyone is like you.

    It would be like someone with 20/20 vision spending their time trying to outlaw prescription eyeglasses.

    You don't need it, and you just can't fucking imagine anyone is different than you.

    Absolutely stunning.

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    The complete lack of human empathy is the issue

    No, the problem is there is no innate human empathy for humans...

    Just for "us" which was likely the reason every species close to us, isn't around anymore.

    Oxytocin is pivotal neurotransmitters for group bonding, it's why we get lonely, fall in love, and think babies are adorable despite being disgusting.

    But oxytocin also makes us hate "them"

    Where "them" is anything we weren't exposed to as toddlers.

    Racism/bigotry is baked into humans, and it takes effort to teach every generation that "us" is a very very wide group. Where "them" is basically just billionaires and people doing their building. That's already where the wealthy have been drawing the line for centuries.

    It's like socializing a puppy around cats so that when the puppy grows up it doesn't have a prey instinct kick in and chase cats.

    We need to socialize kids so that when they grow up they don't freak out over diversity.

    And we'll never be able to stop, every single generation till the end of humanity will need that step

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    That guy is anything but christian...

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Wait, is the "Secretary of War" admitting it's a war?

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Pete Kegsbreath is as Christian as Kenneth Copeland... which is to say exactly nill. It's a facade. They're both exactly opposite of Christian.

    Anti-Christ.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago

    All these millions of Christians who believe what they believe and support them must be fake christians too, huh? Sure is lucky youre here to tell us who is and isnt a real Christian.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    ....and he sayeth unto them, "fight no more, you are brothers" was apparently lost on the lowly maggotty species of humanity...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    You’re drunk, Hegseth.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Whenever I hear some "leader" start extolling any religious nonsense, I immediately conclude that they are either a lying conman, or have a lukewarm IQ. There can't be any in between.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Religion is a mental illness and by far the greatest threat humanity is facing.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    It's pretty incredible how the promise of eternal paradise after death turns people into utter shit lords.

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    [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Its the new Crusades, it's a Holy war for the Holy oil.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    Hegseth is "Christian" the way Olive Garden is "Italian."

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago*

    Shouldn't it? There's no denying there's at least a little bit of a christofascist imperialist aspect to a dude with "Deus vult" and Jerusalem cross tattoos and thoughts that leftists, progressives, and Democrats are the "enemies" of freedom and the US Constitution, and that there are irreconcilable differences between the Left and the Right in America.

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