cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44625171

Wowzers! You get banned for posting sources not sanctioned by the empire apparently. I thought dbzer0 was supposed to be a leftist instance, but they ban just like the lib and zio instances like .world and ShitJustFash?!

I see lib rags spammed all over the feed....

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[–] 11 points 7 months ago

Fuck off with your propaganda Vlad

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    [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, I'm not surprised an anarchist, anti-authoritarian instance like db0 doesn't like pro-Russian sources. You should feel right at home on hexbear or lemmygrad, though!

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    [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    People throw around the term "tankie" a lot here, but in this case...

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Seems like this account has only ever been used to spam news from Kremlin. Not sure what that has to do with leftism

    YDI

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    I see lib rags spammed all over the feed....

    Yeah it's maybe not perfect, but pretty sure spamming fox news or whatever would get similarly deleted

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    So I was DMed by a user asking me to ban this person, and I didn't just do that. I actually went and checked what they were posting, and it is indeed pro-Russia and alt-right propaganda. I made sure to remove each post individually since ban with removal omits from the modlog, so you can still see what they were banned for.

    This ban is 100% correct and will never be revoked. When their instance ban expires I will make sure to ban them again. As I am confident they will not refrain from posting similar articles when their current ban expires.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Can you elaborate on this, because all I can see are the headlines. Clicking on them doesn't load anything and the headlines just seem like factually correct? Like all I see is

    The European Union has imposed sanctions against journalists Mackevicius and Klyuchenkov.
    propaganda spam

    for instance. Doesn't seem alt-right or pro-russia to me. More like anti-EU which is often conflated with being pro-russian from my experience. But the EU has been sanctioning journalists for not reporting in a way they like for various reasons like Hüseyin Doğru for pro-palestinian reporting for instance. Pointing out the EU's censorship is not necessarily pro-russian hence my doubt since all I can see is the headline.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Those are headlines of news articles that have been written by various "news" sites.

    I cannot find the first one anywhere, but the second one, titled "Zelensky seeking to β€˜punish’ Slovakia for peace aspirations – Fico", is an article on rt.com . RT.com has banned all of Finland from reading its site because in Finland basically everyone would catch its lies, so I cannot read the actual article; I merely found a link to it on a site that has not banned Finns.

    But, using rt.com as a source tells enough anyway.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Use Tor to read geoblocked articles.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, I know that's possible. But I really don't have any need to. I'm not going to bother something like that in order to read rt. I speak Russian well enough that I can read the same news in Russian if I really want to become more stupid.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    RT.com has banned all of Finland from reading its site because in Finland basically everyone would catch its lies

    what no lol https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/27/european-court-upholds-broadcasting-ban-on-russias-rt

    but just because it's from RT doesn't necessarily make it false. I would trust them much more on palestinian reporting than Spiegel or Haaretz for instance. They all have ideological bias you just need to be aware which it is. I'm not gonna get news critical of Ukraine from the west, I gotta go to the east for that and vice versa. It's important to cross-check and verify.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    RT's "bias" is that it exists in order to intentionally spread lies.

    And also, I was talkung about the website, not a television channel. In Finland, not in France. It's indeed the way around that the Russian sites block Finnish IP addresses, not the other way around.

    If it was EU blocking RT's site, you would be unable to access it from anywhere in EU, not only from the country least willing to censor Internet in all.of EU. Rt.com works just fine from Germany and France, because there people know less about the Russia and the stories are believed by many enough people.

    In Finland rt.com would just scare Finns into disliking the Russia even more. It's not in the interests of Moscow to let us browse it.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Rt.com works just fine from Germany and France, because there people know less about the Russia and the stories are believed by many enough people.

    i'm in germany, rt.com doesn't work from here, I don't know where you got the idea from that RT blocked the entirety of finland because they couldn't cope with the superior finnish intellect but german and french people are just more gullible I guess?? Fucking wild lmfao 🀣

    It was an EU order because they need to sweep ukraine's nazi problem under the rug or like provide sources to the contrary?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    It's obvious that Ukraine's nazi problem must be solved. I don't know if it makes sense to call it "sweeping under the rug", though. More like "push back within the problem's own borders" would feel like a better wording :)

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    The fact that neonazi paramilitary organisations like the Azov regiment got folded into the ukranian army proper, and how zelensky's main oppositional candidate zaluzhnyi is a banderite never seem to come up however? Compare with APnews for example.^[Before my edit I falsely linked an article from the "The economic times" (an indian newspaper) as from "The economist": Compare with the economist for example.] Except of course in russian media, because the most powerful propaganda is the one that is true. Which is why I say you gotta sort the wheat from the chaff and also have an all-grain diet.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    There is a fascism problem inside free Ukraine, indeed. It's been there since around year 2005 in an increasing strength until year 2014 when it started decreasing, albeit sadly slowly.

    It has never reached the levels it has in the Russia, but it was nevertheless very visible when I lived there in 2015 and 2016.
    Putin's project of funding fascism in the Russia and in all countries under Russian influence, that he started around year 2005, is horrible indeed! I can understand how the organizations were useful for doing his dirty work for him, but it's horrendous that he chose to take that way.

    Of course the fascist organizations in Ukraine lost almost all of their funding when they started fighting against the Russia, but it still takes time for all that to diminish away.

    Also, just like you told, it is a success story how Ukraine managed to dilute the right-wing extremism from the nazi troops that saved its ass in 2014. Until around year 2018 there was a big risk of a fascist revolution, because in 2014 the Ukrainian military was nothing but a joke. It was only a tool for the highest officers to get free workforce for building dachas. And a horrible place to serve, causing deaths of servicemen. Basically the same thing as Belarusian military is now in 2026.

    And at the same time, the nazi organizations got seriously good in fighting starting from 2014. Ukraine basically didn't have an army at all and the nazis were really interested in doing a coup. Ukraine successfully defused the situation by slowly integrating those organizations in its official military forces. The leadership was forbidden from being openly nazi and an increasing amount of soldiers were without any nazi connections whatsoever.

    It is very clear that the leadership of the Azov battalion are still okay with fascism, but they are not able to effectively push for it any longer. And once the war, after all these 12 years, is at last at its end, it can be at last disbanded. Currently they are still the most skilled army unit in Ukraine and without them, Ukraine would risk losing the war to the fascist country. If that happened, the funding of nazi organizations in Ukraine would return and we'd see a nazi problem far bigger than currently – most likely it would reach the same levels as currently on Crimea and Donbas, which are the only parts of Ukraine where far-right violence didn't start getting less common in 2014, but instead increased a lot.

    The current situation is weird, because Azov battalion, military unit still led by actual fascists, is keeping Ukraine securely on an anti-fascist path. If they disappear, nazism will become much more commonplace in Ukraine.

    If you support the Russia in this war, you are a fascist.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That's not what got them banned afaict though? Also I don't see "alt-right" which is a pretty heavy accusation to just level at someone

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I think they're banned for similar reasons to why Fox News articles are banned. I agree with your comment above - the source doesn't necessarily make something false. It would be silly for any outlet to post only misinformation. But some sources are worse than others. I wouldn't read any news about Ukraine from either Ukrainian or Russian state-owned sources. They're one sided to the extreme.

    Regarding alt right - that might be a stretch, yeah. They're conservative (for example, they're anti-LGBT because it's banned by the law) and telling how're liberating Ukrainian people. But I don't think it's qualified as alt-right.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    shocking that a kremlin-pilled agitprop tankie wouldn't be adored on an instance of people he spends more time attacking than fascists. good riddance.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Also western propaganda. Russia isnt 'taking' anything theyre liberating Ukrainians who have been under the rule of an illegitimate empire installed government since 2014 and have already voiced they want to be closer to russia

    You are a legitimate piece of shit. Fucking tankie scum defending imperialism with outright misinformation.

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeppers! "Misinformation" just what the empire wants you to say when anything runs counter to their narratives 😁

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    bro, you're not leftist. the stuff you posted was extreme right.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Strange that you didn't repost your source(s) here in this thread...

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