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[–] 53 points 7 months ago (2 children)

my common suggestion for people looking to switch is throw linux on your last laptop if its in working condition and see how well it runs vs your newer one with windows.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    My favorite solution is to take my laptop from work being decommissioned, drop Linux on it, and have it last for years to come.

    My wife is using my laptop from ~9 years ago. I'm using my work laptop from ~5 years ago, and my current work laptop is about to get decommissioned. My oldest will probably get the one my wife is using.

    They all work great.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    People talk a lot about software enshittification, but hardware enshittification is also a thing!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    My uncle has a country place
    That no one knows about
    He says it used to be a farm
    Before the Motor Law.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    We need to keep old hardware alive and avoid e-waste when possible. What is your computer?

    My wife’s upgraded 2012 MacBook Pro is nicknamed the beast as it’s so snappy running Fedora Workstation.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    My 2013 Dell XPS laptop is still running beautifully with Fedora 43 too! Honestly, it's amazing how much life a piece of old hardware can have with Linux running on it.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Hell yeah! I'm typing this on a 2013 i7 Macbook air running LMDE 13 and it runs like a dream.

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    [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hello from Fedora Silverblue 43 on a 2009 HP Z600 workstation. Can't believe how smoothly GNOME runs on this thing.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Hello from late 2013 MacBook Pro with NixOS

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Moving to NixOS was quite a challenge for me. It felt like a Iot of different concepts that it took a while to understand.

    I'm glad I pushed through because I take like it now. Now that I have my config everything is easy and straightforward.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Sorry dude, I missed this notification. NixOS is a bit of a challenge. The key to understanding it is to know a bit of functional programming, as Nix (the language) is of this kind.

    Of course not everyone is going to learn how to setup a system using Nix because there are far easier methods and honestly they are right, but what Nix gives you is the ability to precisely every single small part of your operating system or more generically your package. (The OS is a big package for it).

    I wouldn’t suggest NixOS to anyone that started recently to use Linux, but I must say that with a bit of practice, even without being a pro in the Nix language, you can do very interesting things. The con of this is that NixOS shields you from learning the basics of Linux, as it configures everything for you and you will rarely touch configuration files etc.

    My suggestion is to definitely have some practice with Linux at first and then make the switch. If you need help pm me

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Fedora + GNOME my beloved <3

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    My daily driver is a 2014 i5 machine with 4GB RAM, running Fedora 43 Sway (riced but no animations).

    It can simultaneously run Emacs, Librewolf 6-8 tabs (research), Helium 2-3 tabs (for email, calendar & cloud drive) and 1-2 desktop chat apps. If I flick on Freetube at this point, it'll freeze up.

    I've got a pretty minimalist approach to work so I don't have too many things running most of the time. I use mostly system packages and Flatpaks sparingly. I can keep running this thing as my daily driver for a few more years.

    Also stick a 27" display and a pair of 5" powered studio speakers into it in the evenings to enjoy some movie streaming.

    ps: I've recently configured another 12GB of virtual memory (?) on the SSD to support the 4GB RAM on the machine and that has significantly helped with multitasking.

    ps2: Sharing the above to encourage to try Linux out. I came to this with zero knowledge amd experience. Really amazing what's possible.

    ps3: May be also good to mention that if first ran Linux Mint (with no optimisations or modifications) on this machine and only moved to Fedora a year later. Both distros worked flawlessly. If anybody is keen to know why I moved from Linux Mint to Fedora, please ask and I will share my experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Why did you move away from Mint?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    In the beginning it was that I wanted to try Gnome and Fedora. I was new to Linux then and experimenting was exciting.

    But I guess the important point here (for me at least) is why I stayed on. Fedora

    I realised the system packages for LibreOffice and some other apps were newer on Fedora.

    Being able to run this laptop mostly on fairly current system packages meant more compatibility (eg. formatting cnsistency on LibreOffice) and not incurring resource overheads from running the same software on Flatpaks. I've not scientifically tested this but it does "feel" a lot snappier running system packaged apps.

    I made the decision to move to Sway when Fedora 43 came out and that freed even more resources from not having to run Gnome.

    Gnome was a good introduction to a keyboard driven workflow and moving to Sway was a lot easier because if my experience navigating via the keyboard on Gnome.

    None of this was premeditated. Its just how things turned out for me. And with Linux, I'd probably optimise more as I go along.

    My system just grew to adapt to my needs, preferences and limitations every step of the way. And I think that journey will continue to adapt as I go.

    Will I recommend LinixMint to anyone? 100%!!! I cannot find any fault with it. Its super reliable, beautiful UI, decent customisations, etc. I've set up LMDE (the Debian variant of LinuxMint) for a few Windows-refugee friends of mine and they've been having a great time.

    Will I go back to Mint? If I could run Sway on it, then perhaps. But I dont have a need to at this moment.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That sound good. If you do want to go back, you can easily install Swap if you want to, and Ubuntu Server if you install Flatpak and remove Snap and some other Ubuntu bloat is basically Mint without a preinstalled desktop environment, so you can install Sway wuth no Cinnamon stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Using zram I hope? Really transforms low memory machines.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zram

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Thanks. This is what I concluded from my reading too. Just needed to jump an extra hoop or two to allocate for btrfs which I didnt know about but going back and redoing the zrsm swap was not difficult.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I'm running Nobara on a 2015 MacBook Pro, nice that this laptop I bought over a decade ago is still a perfectly good machine. The display, trackpad, keyboard and aluminum chassis are still stop notch and the processor and ram handle my casual computer usage just fine. Wild to think how many perfectly good computers are just going to waste because Apple and Microsoft gave up on them.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Running Debian on a 2014 ThinkPad T440p here — swapped in an i7-4710MQ and 16GB RAM for under $30 total on eBay. Compiles code, runs containers, handles everything I throw at it.

    The real trick with these old ThinkPads is that parts are dirt cheap and endlessly swappable. Battery dying? $15 replacement. Screen too dim? Swap in an IPS panel for $25. Try doing that with anything made after 2020.

    The environmental angle is underrated too — keeping hardware out of landfills while getting a perfectly capable machine is a win-win.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    Aside from one desktop that still has Win 7 Pro on it for various reasons, and is almost entirely an internal server, every single system I use is Linux. Has been this way for at least a decade. My current laptop came with Winblows 11 but I booted first time straight into a Kubuntu flash drive to install it. Never even had to see that ugly ass Winblows.

    I’ve got something running Pop, one running Debian, one has Elementary, I’ve got one with Bodhi, another with KDE Neon, one with Q4, and a variety of others.

    Fuck Winblows the OS that is one giant virus.

    Edit: oooh forgot my little guy running Kali. And also the dozen distros running in VMs on the Windows desktop.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    My employer offered to upgrade my many-years-old Thinkpad to a newer one, but it just did not stick (WiFi drivers in Linux were unstable). I returned it and kept using the old one. Why change what works.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Well my 25$ Value Village SFF PC works well after about 100$ of upgrades, including a i7 and 32GB of RAM (bought last year)...

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I've been throwing Linux onto fresh SSDs for a bit now. Main issue with old laptops is all the different chargers. USBC laptop charging is really the best.

    Planning to give the non USBC to family members.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    To compare...

    We're running brand new Dell laptops with Windows 11 and most are failing.

    Some are hardware issues (laptop won't charge!) Some are software (BSOD, random issues, etc)

    So, TBH, I'd like to buy back all our old laptops, replace Windows with Linux and do away with all the corp. spyware and I bet my team's productivity doubles.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago

    Don’t mention Brave here. The Firefox loons will have an absolute fucking meltdown.

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