I'm not sure if that law will pass/has passed, but I wonder how it affects embed systems, vending machines, etc, since all of them have OS in them. For Linux this can already be implemented by using groups for age so they can claim the OS already offers this and be done, then it's up to the apps to query it and most apps wouldn't need to so that's that.
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Just do what MidnightBDS did. MidnightBSD has decided to change its license to prohibit use in California. There, problem sorted. Anyone in California wanting MBDS can simply use a vpn. BTW, MBDS is one of those happy kind of discoveries (serendipity?) I’ve just made. Check them out.
This right here. It's not about "protecting children." It never HAS been about "protecting children." It never WILL be about "protecting children." It's about surveillance and control. The money class is desperate for ways to identify you online that can get around your use of a VPN. They want to know who you are, where you are, where you go, who you talk to, what you buy and what your politics are. And if you think they'll be satisfied with just an age check for porn sites, you are hopelessly naive.
Fortunately, when someone or something "damages" the Internet, like these sorts of laws, the Internet routes around that damage. If a website won't accept my connection because of an age check, I'm just going to move on the something else. These idiot lawmakers act like we don't have a choice. I say they're wrong.
Just think about the children™ bro. We are doing everything to save the children™ bro. Trust me bro.
Just add a "Not To Be Used In California" note.
If - yep, a VERY big If - that happened it would at least trigger a larger discussion. At the moment, no-one in the general public knows about this erosion of privacy.
I didn't realize it at first, but Pornhub has also been requesting device based age verification legislation.

The California law essentially allows a parent to create a child account on a device and gives a way for apps to query it.
I'm not sure what PH is asking for, but it doesn't sound like the same thing.
NY is next
New York Senate Bill S8102A goes further. It "requires manufacturers of internet-enabled devices to conduct age assurance" to check all users' ages, and provide this info to "all websites, online services, online applications and mobile applications" – as well as app stores.
Each app needs to check age? So like every one of the hundred windows processes need to do this?
Good thing that isn't what was passed.
The bill does describe what a covered app store is. Here is a link in case anyone wants to read it.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043
Yup, that is what it says.
This will all depend on what the courts (assuming this even gets there) decide an application is.
Maybe we should move more towards package managers only providing libraries and utilities. And not full-blown applications. Then rely on Flatpak and appimages (or snaps :-1:) for actual apps. It would be better for security anyways.
Linux will not care, if some corporate distros sell out, no matter. Just spin up any other million distros which are not [redacted]. Or just gentoo it.
Linux is like that spider swatting meme where the spider gets squished, and then it explodes into a million smaller spiders that run every direction.
Literally no reason to use a slur.
Perhaps strong words, but i absolutely despise this pointless topic. i am not in US jurisdiction (not that it would make any difference if i was), i don't want their nonsense and i believe very strongly against it. we have enough of our own nonsense from politicians who understand nothing to deal with.
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Nothing GNU or proper free software can care, because it would violate freedom number zero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Software_Definition#The_Four_Essential_Freedoms
Every app does not need to check your birth date. An app will be able to query if the user is within one of a few broad ranges of age (e.g. under 18), but an app only has to do that if it needs to comply with some other legislation.
Who exactly gains anything from forcing lets say Krita to implement an age check?

KRITA MENTIONED!
The comment you answered to said not all software has to implement age checks; only those who actually deal with age relevant content. You said it would be a foot in the door. So... who's foot to do what?
How would the current approach help?
Its not invasive yet (no third party, no ID, no verification; its basically just another user controlled date field that is not even exposed). So it is not lowering any barrier in that regard.
It's also not a helpful intermediary step for harder measures, because as soon as you want a third party to do attestation, storing that on a user controlled device is just unnecessary complexity and risk of circumvention. It would be easier and safer (for those introducing it) to just let the attesting party talk to the providers directly.
Isn't that level already socially normalized? Every second website asks me for my birthday to derive my age for as long as I can think. Many of them ask me basically every time I use them (even Steam, where I am logged in and my payment history alone should imply that I am old enough).
The US bills I have read also don't enforce any real age (how could they). They require the birthday to be stored on the device for the device to reply with the info if the user is within a certain age bracket. But nowhere did I see anything that would force users to store their truthful birthday. All that it would do is making the already existing age checks much more convenient and giving parents the opportunity to make them slightly more secure.
From an acceptance point of view there is no difference in forcing providers to implement an API to talk to your device or forcing providers to talk to a central service (or at least any service implementing a certain interface).
If the goal was for more surveillance, they could have immediately gone for that route.
They could also have kept the current "ask the user" approach and mandated website providers to store these information. That would have been a much smaller step and would have brought them closer to big brother as well.
Now they went for an approach that takes a step away from what we already have, making it more privacy friendly. Websites don't have to ask (and potentially store) your birthday anymore and can still stay compliant.
Slippery nipples!!!!
Actual bad laws are being passed, why not focus on them instead of hyperventilating about a law. That doesn't do what people are claiming it does.
In my country, Brazil, on March 17 the age verification will be law on every OS… so technically Linux will be “illegal” too :(
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