The maximalist aims of the joint attack cast doubt on whether there had ever been any prospect of success for the US-Iranian negotiations in the preceding weeks, in which delegates discussed possible limits on uranium enrichment. Those talks, the latest round on Thursday, had been conducted under the shadow of what Trump called his “beautiful armada” gathering in the Middle East, the biggest US force in the region since the ill-fated 2003 Iraq invasion, and it now seems likely that only a complete capitulation on Iran’s part could stop this assembled American might being unleashed.

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[–] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It is not entirely clear what transformed Trump from a peace president to a war president, but there are clues.

He was never a peace president.

Also this kid loves regime changes, maybe he should get one he'll never forget.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Right? He’s never said the truth (except accidental slips of his true plans), fuck the complicit media. Were cooked cause we don’t have any honest sources of news any longer, and that was fully and 100% intentional by the ruling class.

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    [–] 84 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Congress doesn't care. There's absolutely zero rule of law when it comes to Trump.

    All these dipshit brushing off his threats to the midterms need to wake up real fucking fast. Trump never lies about his depravity when he's admitting to it.

    Millions will die because stupid fucking Americans are too arrogant to take anything Trump threatens seriously, and are too fucking stupid to be able to understand how life is always worse under fascism than neo-liberalism.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    the us government, by not caring, aren't doing anything to stop him, thus they are doing nothing to stop the rise of fascism.  what does this really say about congress?

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    who the fuck cares what it says about congress.

    what does this all say about taking to the streets?

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    which branch of government is "the streets" again?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    the one built in the mistakes of this form of government.

    because cograts, you got a dictator. start over and try again.

    why do Americans still think they can vote their way out?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of us don't.

    We just don't own any news organizations, we aren't billionaires, so you rarely hear about it.

    Sure, we could argue with the R and D dreamers every minute of every hour of every day, but there's not much point to it.

    I vote, I just realize it's for entertainment purposes only and it won't actually accomplish anything of note.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Yeah I've been saying we're not likely to have real midterms since Trump won. My family members brushed me off at the time, but the last few weeks they seem to have come around. It's possible they're just humoring me after all this time but i really believe more and more people are becoming fully ready to support a movement that actually fights for people. The only issue now is organizing that movement and convincing everyone to stick with it. How hard could THAT be? :)

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Calling it now. Nothing will happen.

    A slap on the wrist here. A scapegoat there. Nothing serious.

    The people that run America want this to happen. The mega-wealthy. They don't care. They are in charge.

    The people could be if they rose up or protested enough. They won't though. As long as they have their TV shows and food on the table the majority sadly don't give a shit.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, we know. The USA has done this for years.

    (gone to war without congressional approval or declaration for a "preemptive" strike, which means first strike really)

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    The sad/ironic thing?

    Much like with Iraq and Afghanistan, there actually ARE very good reasons to intervene. Iran has been murdering protestors by the thousands for the past year and a LONG history of human rights abuses before that.

    But the plight of Brown People(TM) doesn't sell to the Left or the Right. So instead we focus on "uranium enrichment".

    And then we see the same shit as with Venezuela where the complete lack of empathy for non-caucasians results in all the tankies deciding that anyone who actually IS happy that an evil fascist is gone/dead is too stupid to understand how things work.

    And, of course, we have the republican chuds who similarly need to focus on this being about protecting white people rather than just... caring about human rights.

    Of course, it is also hard to do that when you have two pro-genocide governments involved. But... we got how many decades out of thinking that The Allies actually cared about The Jews and The Romanis and so forth when we went to war with Germany?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    That's been the case for all the other attacks, including the ones he has done WITHIN the United States. No mandate and no legal basis.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    And Congress will do nothing about it. There hasn't been a war the oligarchy wasnt foaming at the mouth to get into

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    American imperialism never does Trump just tries less to hide it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Le-gal? What does that mean?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    "Ignoring your duty and responsibility to govern has downstream consequences." This and more lessons Congress will never learn, tonight at 11.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    “The Board Bored of Peace Era”

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Its too late for that to matter even if they do turn on him, which is highly unlikely anyways.

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  • [+] 3 points 8 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] [S] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Do you think we are going to have anything close to a real election? That was an hour ago in the movie, did you fall asleep?

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    [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Imagine if Republicans had enough of a spine to consider what is legal.

    Americans are collectively responsible for the actions of their government because they have the right to bear arms and therefore the means to rise up and kill their leaders and they don’t.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 8 months ago

    “For Trump, who had far more success as a reality show character than a property developer, war began to look like a better distraction than peace. He was thrilled by a daring and successful raid on Venezuela in January, in which US special forces whisked the country’s leader, Nicolás Maduro, out of the country without a single US casualty.

    Trump is clearly counting on spectacular success in Iran, broadcast live, to bring his country along with him after the fact. Before his overnight recorded statement, there had been no real effort by the administration to lay out a convincing case to Congress or to the nation, at a time when polls suggest only a quarter of the US electorate supports a new war in the Middle East.”

    —The Guardian

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