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[–] 60 points 8 months ago (22 children)

Wish I was rich enough to do the same.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (21 children)

    You don't need a ton of money to do so if you're unskilled labor, and basically only a plane ticket if you're skilled labor. Contact people in perspective countries and ask about it. Japan is great if you want to start a small business, especially if it brings in USD. Vietnam is great if you want to be a white face for an english school, China is great if you have a degree in teaching, I've a couple friends who went to Germany (not from the US tho) for nursing and IDK what else.

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Not just a plane ticket. You need to take into account visas (can’t just fly in as a tourist and start working), employer sponsorships, temporary accommodation and living expenses until you get paid, and other kinds of expenses.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    And don't forget that you still have to pay US income taxes on income earned overseas! 🙄

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    Depends on exactly what you're doing. If you're starting a business in Japan for example, it's fine for the duration of your tourist visa, then you have to leave and apply for a business visa, if you're doing it in China, or Vietnam, you have to reenter on a business visa. It's very common to arrange business sponsorships in person in Vietnam on a tourist visa then reenter. IDK about China. Temporary accommodation and living expenses can be extremely cheap compared to the US if you don't mind sleeping in a hostel and eating street food.

    But yes I didn't bother to include non-monetary things you'd need to set up, such as employer sponsorships.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    If I somehow found a way to leave, it certainly wouldn't be to Japan. They're just starting the same rise to fascism.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That’s putting it lightly. Japan never really relaxed in regards to things like blatant racism and nationalism. In the wake of WW2, the Japanese government invested heavily in the arts to try and change their public image. And it largely worked. Overseas, the country is mostly known for anime and zany fashion.

    But domestically, the country has always been extremely conservative and resistant to change. At ~99% natural Japanese, their population is one of the most homogenous in the world. And that ~1% of foreigners encompasses the entirety of tourism, foreign workers, etc… Japan has a saying that roughly translates to “the nail that sticks out gets hammered down,” and the culture definitely embodies that. The culture is largely defined by conformity and tradition, meaning even small deviations from societal expectations get heavily scrutinized.

    This pressure to conform also means that Japan is extremely racist towards basically anyone who isn’t Japanese. If given the choice when hiring, Japanese companies will choose a Japanese applicant over a foreigner 100% of the time, even if the foreigner is just as qualified. That’s why the OP mentioned starting your own business if you plan on moving there. As a foreigner, you have basically no chance of getting hired by an existing company. As ann immigrant, your only real opportunities for employment will be in a stereotypically “foreign” job, (like teaching English), via international transfer, (like an American working for Toyota, and transferring to a Japanese branch), or via starting your own business.

    And that racism has always been present, but it has recently started to percolate into outright jingoism. Their politics have always been a mess, but recent elections have swung things even farther towards fascism. They’re constitutionally prohibited from building an army, (it was one of the concessions they made after WW2, and they’re only allowed to keep a small national self-defense force), but they have politicians murmuring about building an army anyways.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This sounds like something that somebody who has literally never moved in their life would say. You need money just to move across states nevermind continents, trust me I have lived in 7 different states and 2 different European countries.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Why would you go from one dictatorship to another lol

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you meant China or Vietnam, a dictatorship of the working class is different from a dictatorship of capital.

    If you meant Japan, yeah things aren't looking great, but at least LDP is opposing the even-further-right parties?

    If you meant Germany, after 5 years or so of working, you qualify for citizenship and can go elsewhere in the EU, which should be enough time to get out before AfD takes over.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I left during the first Trump presidency. Best decision given the circumstances.

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    [–] 56 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    🙋‍♂️ I left in 2025. It's great! Walkable and bikeable cities, affordable groceries, my health insurance actually pays for stuff, there's public transit, the food is safer, and not absolutely every I do funnels into only 12 companies.

    I moved my family. When my kid needs higher education, it won't cost more than our home. I can send him out in the streets without worrying he'll be hit by a truck going 80. Active shooter or intruder drills aren't a phenomenon in his school.

    I only wish we could have done it sooner.

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    I was watching a show called Pernille the other week, takes place in Norway, and I thought her youngest daughter was 14/15. She was 12 and walking all over the place. That freedom is just something the States doesnt have. my Son is 12, if I let him walk to the store (crossing a busy 45mph+ road) the cops could get called on me.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I used to bike or skateboard everywhere when I was that age, why do people think this isn't possible in the USA? I drive almost everywhere now (why would I pedal when I can twist a throttle? 😉) but still regularly see middle school kids walking or biking around town. Maybe it's just certain areas or people reading too much fear mongering news.

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    Where they started Nunya Business, which is obscenely wealthy. However, there's a fantastic opportunity where they need an enterprising foreigner like yourself to agree to handle a bank transfer processing fee and hold on to all their assets before the government takes it all and. . .

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I wish I could as well. I'd be out of here in a heartbeat. I'm already single, live alone, work remotely in the tech sector. It would be nothing for me to pick up and leave. It's just not that easy to be able to move to a different country.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    much easier in your circumstance, than it would be for so many of us.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I remember last time I checked, my score was only like 350 which is far below what you need to be considered for permanent residency in Canada. Canada would be my country of choice in this situation.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    they count your credit score!?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    No, they have a system of ranking you where they weigh all kinds of aspects of your life. Do you know French? Do you have relatives in Canada? Have you ever worked for anybody in Canada? Did you go to school in Canada? Etc. Based on these answers you get a score. I only scored a 350. I think the minimum is like 600. The highest is 1200.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't even know where I would go at this point if I was picking up stakes.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    It's a little bit easier to make the decision (given the opportunity) when your country wants to genocide you and your friends.

    I made the decision November 2024. No regrets, just a lot of tears and sweat

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Still no housing

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Hmm, and where are they leaving to? Who will welcone USA citizens?

    Is it maga or non-maga who is leaving? 

    So many questions.... 

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I felt very welcome in China and Vietnam. Japanese people tend to be a little colder, but theres a huge us immigrant community here for a reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    On a conference call last month hosted by Expatsi, a relocation company, almost 400 Americans signed up to learn how to move to Albania. The former Stalinist state offers a special visa allowing U.S. citizens to live and work there, with no tax on foreign income for a year, no questions asked.

    I guess that should count as welcoming.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    If things don't turn around soon, I don't see any other option.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Can confirm.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Welcome to the world!

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    More like passengers recognizing there’s another ship that offers more to life as long as you’re ok with lower salary and higher taxes. Life seems to be better and it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The word “rat” has such negative connotations. They are actually intelligent, curious and resourceful little critters.

    Incidentally, the same thing happened with Russia. When Putin started tightening his grip around the throat of his people, many people decided to go. Among them, were many smart and educated people who could find a job elsewhere.

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