I was hoping for a decentralized version of discord ever since they started requiring phone numbers.
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Stoat have ruled out federation. They are also UK based too. Not good long term.
Yes they have. It is third in their priority list.
But a centralised system based on a service hosted in the UK?
Idk what you're talking about since Fluxer is based in Sweden
Stoat's great issue is that development has been stagnating for the past like 5 years. It's bad because it doesn't have a sustainable business model (which Fluxer has by the way) and also because it is based in the UK
Having the pricing model upfront is a good thing. Running these services costs money, and I'd rather know what their plan is now than be surprised in the future.
Idk how the pricing model works down the line when federation is active, but yeah.
Seems like "premium features" only apply to users on the flagship server. If you self-host you get everything.
Really fair point, but I think some compromises are necessary to keep the project financially sustainable. Stoat is incomplete, it's not federated and has shady development practices. Also, vc barely works and it's unreliable as heck
Is Fluxer US based though?
Did something happen to the Fluxer community? It's suddenly gone from my list (with no "!" outage symbol, just gone) along with the second one that was established for ApexSync. Curious where else to follow the community while ApexSync is still in development.
Apparently Fluxer is moving the infrastructure to a better one so sometimes outages are to be expected..Rome wasn't build in 3 days
No, they're pointing out that the server this post is about got deleted.
The admins got annoyed by Fluxer's stability issues and announced they'd be developing their own activitypub platform instead to compete with fluxer, leading to them neglecting the Fluxer server this post is about.
Then, both the fediverse server and the one about their alternative got deleted. At least one of the admins also deleted their Mastodon.
I'm assuming they acted rash and emotionally when they decided to make their own platform, and realized the task was too big for them to shoulder, so they went nuclear. It's not just the fluxer stuff, at least one of them also deleted their socials.
I think them deleting their apexsync discussion server before the release date (so people have no chance to switch over if they forget the name) is proof that the project has died. Or at least isn't planned to release any time soon after all.
I still dont understand. Why not Matrix based Element or Continuwuity?
Because no-one is using it
But that is more true of any newer system
Right, but Matrix has been around for a while and yet its only use is to be a hub for tech-related projects and support rooms. How would you propose we somehow get people using it?
Thats mostly a UX piece not a backend thing to me. Matrix RTC is a huge step to me, but discord is just voice channels for me.
I want to check commets voice chats myself
Because Matrix has got to many inconsistencies and it's too complicated for the average user. Sometimes e2e encryption breaks chat history, the official instance is slow and, most of all, there is NO native support for video calls and screen sharing. Element just uses Jitsi Meet In a chromium wrapper
I belive the native support piece is recently out of date info: https://element.io/blog/exploring-matrixrtc-real-time-communication-in-rooms/
The link doesn't seem to be working.
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