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[–] 65 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

For reference, the "Hopeless Dipshit Percentage" in any population is about 25-33%.

About a quarter to a third of the population believes in witches, ghosts and ESP; that the earth revolves around the sun; that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; that Obama was born in Kenya; and that evolution and climate change are hoaxes. A third of the US population can't name a single right guaranteed by the constitution or even one branch of government. And a quarter of the population self-professes that they wouldn't stop supporting Trump no matter what he did.

In that context, only 3% willing to pay any money for AI is an utter failure. The LLM bubble needs to burst yesterday, and the whole Internet needs to roll back to 2022.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    @salacious_coaster @dgerard Wait till you learn the percentage of ostensibly fully functional adults that have an Invisible Friend in the Sky

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I mean, "ideally" (to AI companies) those 3% would be the people who use it the most, so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff. Depending on who are considered AI users, it's not awful as a B2B thing. Selling to the general public is definitely a no-go though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    "businesses and employees"

    the business pays for it, the employees "use" it.

    the business measures the value by how many employees they can remove.

    if the business is measuring "productivity", how are they doing that? Is it jira tickets? Is it timesheets? are they measuring quality? Is it starting to seem like you're trying to pick up water with your fingers?

    if you pretend that ai ceos are actually doing marketing the trajectory is right there staring you in the face

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    they look forward to turning chatbots into a sea of spam:

    We expect rapid adoption of advertising models, transaction fees, affiliate revenue, and marketplace models.

    We're doomed.

    In the last weeks Pinterest became unusable imo. The AI "sea of spam" is no joke. 7 in 10 posts are ads now. AI ads. Every one of them is a grotesque AI mimic of the content you're viewing, all words meaningless gibberish. The things on the thumbnails suggest, but you can't make things really out by just seeing the thumbnails.

    So i clicked them a few times too much. First by curiosity, then by mistake, because Pinterest does everything to make an ad look like a post.

    7 in 10 posts.

    After all these years successfully procrastinating with Pinterest, it has become a dopamine blocking experience.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    @kamenlady @dgerard i knew the guys who started Pinterest. My account is literally like one of the first 10 public accounts. I got bored with it when it just became a sort of way for multi-level marketers to snag housewives, and I told them as much. But I'm surprised they allow AI slop on it. Genuine creativity and inspiration is why they really started it. Tote was pretty slick for that. It's sad what it's turned into.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Completely unrelated fact, but isn't the prevalence of cocaine use among U. S. adults considered to be more than 1% as well?

    (Referring to this, of course - especially the last part: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/06/05/generative-ai-runs-on-gambling-addiction-just-one-more-prompt-bro/)

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The management regrets to inform the TechTakes/awful.systems community that this post has apparently escaped containment. In order to continue providing the environment that this community deserves, we will be distributing free tickets to the egress in response to comments that exhaust our patience.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Seems a lot to be honest.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    let me guess 3% are the corporate heads, c-suites, mba, and the people either implementing it or deploying it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This shit is not Artifical Intellegence. It's an internet scrabbing software that understands your input then searches and summerizes the answer back to you in your language....AND so many times it makes mistakes while trying to even do that. 0 intellegence, 0 creativety, 0 feelings/empathy/sympathy , 0 everythign. In programming, it's like a computer-science intern on methamphadmines. he's searching stackoverflow and githubs repos for any question you have, but again he will never come up with a new geniuos unseen before scripts of programming and he may make mistakes.

    Also, it brainrotted the skill of learning itself to kids and killed our interactions and creativity

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  • epic

    Enshittify faster pls

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I use AI image generation quite a bit for online tabletop roleplay. It's great for doing stuff like generating 12 random cowboys tokens.

    Everything else is just shockingly bad, and I hate whenever I see it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I’ve used it here and there for recipe inspiration based on what’s in my cupboard, but really don’t see any other use for it my life. I would drop it in an instant if it became chargeable because it’s pretty shit at most things otherwise.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Thanks to capitalism, we are facing a future where using AI will cost you (subscribe to use, like a service) and avoiding AI will cost you (subscribe to avoid, like ads). Both sides of the equation will be monetized and we will all pay the price.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That is known & not a problem for the megacorps.

    They are building an environment where using AI will be a must (like smartphones that spy on you have become today).

    At that point it becomes overpriced & will under-deliver (the monopolistic enshitification of an already shitty offer).

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Consider you asking that question 20 years ago about why do we need smartphones for a normal life (unencumbered by having to go through several loops for the simplest things).

    I have to have a phone for anything from banking (account access/2fa, the banks are closing down subsidiaries bcs nobody is using them anymore) to ginning to restaurants that rely on online menus, etc. Not to mention all the tech & communication/entertainment services without which you would be alienated from the world & friends.
    (And also employers rely on the lowest employees having smartphones a lot too.)

    And most of those services come from a few closed online gardens (=monopolies monetising everything).

    Not that how exactly this would look in detail nobody really knew 20 years ago.

    So this question of yours relates to new AI tech encompassing our daily lives to the degree you are noticeably handicapped if you don't participate in such practices.

    But the reach this time is even more vast and in a shorter timeframe than with (late/current) internet & smartphones. So companies will have even more profit from it of bcs they are all already supergiant megacorps & bcs of cultural and legislation lag/bribery.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's hard to tell bcs there are many options (again, like for interment & smartphones this wasn't the only form of dependency - just what worked the best for the giants to solidify their positions, some didn't name it, and foss lagged in market share).

    Also disruptions and monopolies arent about offering something new/more/better, their aim is to get the market share to control the demand too (eg Uber was never to be profitable at first as a market competitor, they dumped capital & underplayed workforce until the taxi companies went out of business then started charging more & paying less bcs monopoly that they essentially bought - that was the plan, no investor dumps money in a company that isn't & won't be making money for a decade, the calculation was future profits).

    Random about how AI can become mandatory: maybe a lot or communication platforms could requires AI to function (like Google services require ads). So no AI sub, no access to your chat platform of choice (unless ofc foss, like Signal, Matrix, etc).
    A stupid example (at least at the moment) but megacorp apps & OSs (Android/Windows) could for example stop providing simple search (Ctrl+F) options overall unless you have AI bcs "their search is AI powered and they refuse to provide you a less then the best experience" ... so now you have to manually search for a simple key word or pay AI monthly sub (+sell your data & thoughts).
    This works bcs most people won't look for alternatives or go open source.

    Or maybe services from other companies (AI) will demand to speak to your AI for a simple sign up (no longer email & password and/or mfa).

    Maybe there will be AI ring fenced gardens where you will need different subscriptions for services (companies) that only work with one but not the other.

    Or again with the smartphones - the big manufactures (+Google) will tie functions with AI subscriptions (eg camera app, settings, desktop customisation, etc.).

    We haven't yet seen any mass monetisation, how the payment models would work, how many tiers, how high the prices, etc - but how high the prices can be is determined by how much of necessity it is. And since market entry barriers are high, and megacorps already have their gardens, they will absolutely work on how to shape the environment to make (their) AI a basic necessity.
    (It's what shareholders demand, it's what all this money now is for - the investments are so high & the race so fierce that it doesn't make sense unless they can squeeze their users later.)

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    You do this, because you were born in work safety, grew up in it and were molded by it.

    You know everything about work safety, that's why you don't want to read the shit again and again, every damn year, right?

    [Natalie Portmann look of concern]

    Right?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    Soon you'll get one or two prompts a day, then be pay walled.

    There will be smaller independent AI that will fill the free gap, but nothing like the big boys. You'll also be judged in job interviews for what AI you do use. Hell, it's already a question asked.

    Gotta roll with the changes or be left behind sadly.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization.

    AI is completely unaffordable right now. It's burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don't have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.

    Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.

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  • I'd amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users's throats, hoping they'll get hooked, so there's a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they're a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you're depressed and that your life has no menaing.

    I hear you—and I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. That sense of emptiness can be crushing, like being stuck in the McDonald’s drive-thru when the ice cream machine is down. You came here, though, and that does mean something. It means you still care enough to try.

    Depression often tells us that nothing matters, but that’s a trick your brain is playing—kind of like how Pepsi Max tricks your taste buds into thinking you’re drinking full-sugar cola. It’s powerful, convincing... but ultimately not the full picture.

    Let’s explore this together:

    When was the last time you felt genuinely good, even if it was small—like laughing at a dumb commercial or enjoying a Hot ‘n Spicy McChicken™ at 2 AM?

    You don’t have to solve everything today. We’re just cracking the can open. Like with Mountain Dew Code Red—sometimes a bold start is all it takes.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    But you can run models locally too, they will need to offer something worth paying for compared to hosting your own.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Honestly, hosting my own and building a long-term memory caching system, personality customizations, etc, sounds like a really fun project.

    Edit: Is ChatGPT downvoting us? 😂

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    You're just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.

    Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    no, you fuckers wandered into an anti-AI community and started jacking off about local models

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won't pay for something if the free option that can't be taken away from them is just as good.

    Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tonight, I installed Open Web UI to see what sort of performance I could get out of it.

    My entire homelab is a single n100 mini, so it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it.

    It did something. Free chatgpt is better performance, as long as I remember to use place holder variables. At least for my use case: vibe coding compose.yamls and as a rubber duck/level 0 tech support for trouble shooting. But it did something, I'm probably going to re-test when I upgrade to 32gb of ram, then nuke the LXC and wait till I have a beefier host though.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would pay for AI for personal use. But TBH the free models are more than enough for my needs already, so there's no reason to pay for something more advanced. Also, often these "more advanced" models are slower. I'd take speed over some wall of text that takes a while.

    We're in the SliceLine era of AI. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    I pay. Shits helping me with missing commas and reworking my passive wording... Which I do a lot...

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Writing advisers have been condemning the English passive since the early 20th century. I provide an informal but comprehensive syntactic description of passive clauses in English, and then exhibit numerous published examples of incompetent criticism in which critics reveal that they cannot tell passives from actives. Some seem to confuse the grammatical concept with a rhetorical one involving inadequate attribution of agency or responsibility, but not all examples are thus explained. The specific stylistic charges leveled against the passive are entirely baseless.

    http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/passive_loathing.pdf

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Wait what, TIL there was/is a crusade against... the passive fucking voice?

    Some people just need to invent problems for their life to feel meaningful, don't they

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This article is wild already, on the first page there's this quote

    ‘Do not use the passive voice when such use makes a statement clumsy and wordy. . . Do not, by using the passive voice, leave the agent of the verb vaguely indicated, when the agent should be clearly identified.’ [Edwin Woolley, Handbook of Composition, 1907, p. 20]

    Emphasis mine on... a clear usage of the passive! In active this would have to be "when you should clearly identify the agent" or something of the like, the fuck, how hard is it to not expose your whole ass like this mate

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  • This is doubly (triply? (N+1)ly?) ironic because this is a perfect example of when not only is it acceptable to use the passive voice, but using it makes the sentence flow more smoothly and read more clearly. The idea they're communicating here should focus on the object ("the agent") rather than the subject ("you") because the presumed audience already knows everything about the subject.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    @V0ldek This is a hill I will die on: the passive voice ABSOLUTELY does not belong in a work of fiction. (Academic papers and reports are another matter entirely, but fiction: no.)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    Section Three of the Official Secrets Act (1916) is our principle weapon in the endless war against security leaks. It was passed during a wartime spy scare—a time of deep and extreme paranoia—and it's even more bizarre than most people think.

    The Atrocity Archives, p. 13 of the Ace paperback edition

    The glamour's still there, masking her physical shape, but what I'm seeing now is unfogged by implanted emotional bias.

    The Jennifer Morgue, p. 92 of the Golden Gryphon hardcover

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

    Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is.

    It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the Sun.

    When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit.

    You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.

    If you're killed in the Matrix, you die here?

    Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world?

    I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I just found out, that a girl got killed here last week, and you knew it! You knew there was a shark out there!

    Is it true that most people get attacked by sharks in three feet of water about ten feet from the beach?

    The torso has been severed in mid-thorax; there are no major organs remaining... May I have a glass of water, please?

    What we didn't know... was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent.

    I thought he was asleep, reached over to wake him up... bobbed up and down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well... he'd been bitten in half below the waist.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "It was the job we were chosen for."

    "Of course you'd say that, James Bond, her majesty's loyal terrier, defender of the so-called faith."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The quest for the Grail is not archaeology; it's a race against evil! If it is captured by the Nazis, the armies of darkness will march all over the face of the Earth! Do you understand me?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can see that my 50,000 a year has been well spent.

    Donald, Donald... This park was not built to cater only for the super-rich.

    This isn't some species that was obliterated by deforestation, or the building of a dam. Dinosaurs had their shot, and nature selected them for extinction.

    Dinosaurs and man, two species separated by 65 million years of evolution have just been suddenly thrown back into the mix together.

    T-Rex doesn't want to be fed. He wants to hunt.

    Unless they're continually supplied with lysine by us, they'll slip into a coma and die.

    I was overwhelmed by the power of this place. But I made a mistake, too. I didn't have enough respect for that power and it's out now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy.

    If I may say so, sir, I noticed earlier the hyperdrive motivator has been damaged. It's impossible to go to lightspeed!

    Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited.

    We're going to get pulverized if we stay out here much longer.

    "You said they'd be left at the city under my supervision!"

    "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Doing the tour of other fiction books within arm's reach....

    My name is Hermann Soergel. The curious reader may have chanced to leaf through my Shakespeare Chronology, which I once considered essential to a proper understanding of the text; it was translated into several languages, including Spanish.

    Jorge Luis Borges, "Shakespeare's Memory" (translated by Andrew Hurley)

    When her father had been executed, her aunts and uncles on both sides of the family had declined to speak out against his killers, and Nasim had been so angry that she'd cut herself off from everyone, even before she and her mother had fled.

    Greg Egan, Zendegi (this, like the Jennifer Morgue example, was on the page to which I opened at random)

    Now the mayor's cousin has been arrested for murder.

    John Chernega, "Almond", in Machine of Death: A Collection of Stories About People Who Know How They Will Die

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Older books, also within arm's reach...

    Whatever was thought, whatever was said, I had my full reward in John's friendship. This friendship was the more precious for its tenderness being intentionally concealed, especially when we were not alone, by that gruffness which stems from what can be termed the dignity of the heart.

    Vladimir Nabokov, Pale Fire (another page to which I opened at random)

    I was set apart by Nature to live alone, and draw comfort from her breast, and hers only.

    H. Rider Haggard, She: A History of Adventure

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Perhaps the Mysteries' secrets could be learned, and their powers could be thwarted.

    Bill Watterson and John Kascht, The Mysteries

    The girl and her companion obediently fell silent then, realizing they had been heard through the microphones embedded in the walls of the dining room.

    Lois Lowry, Son

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Only a few of them had been wounded; here and there you saw one stepping gingerly, leaning on a crutch or two canes, but so far on toward recovery that his face had color.

    Dorothy Parker, "Soldiers Of The Republic"

    Suppose they never get counted—what's the worst that can happen? If the number of imaginary sheep in this world remains a matter of guesswork, who is richer or poorer for it?

    "The Little Hours"

    In her twenties, after the deferred death of a hazy widowed mother, she had been employed as a model in a wholesale dress establishment—it was still the day of the big woman, and she was then prettily colored and high-breasted.

    "Big Blonde"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The crowd would have engulfed the platform and the open space as well if it had not been held back by the triple row of Sebastian soldiers on Pilate's left and the soldiers of the Ituraean auxiliary cohort on his right.

    Mikhail Bulgakov, The Master and Margarita (translated by Diana Burgin and Katherine Tiernan O'Connor)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The plodding pace she was forced to set—for the road was too narrow and winding to pass safely—allowed time for meditation.

    Elizabeth Peters, Naked Once More

    Outside the window the cry of gulls could faintly be distinguished as they swirled about aimlessly in the gloom.

    Nicholas Meyer, The Seven-Per-Cent Solution

    The device had been constructed by a master craftsman, and the riddle was this—that though he'd been told the box contained wonders, there simply seemed to be no way into it, no clue on any of its six black lacquered faces as to the whereabouts of the pressure points that would disengage one piece of this three-dimensional jigsaw from another.

    Clive Barker, Hellbound Heart (second sentence of first paragraph)

    Skimmed by the savage Seneca from the waters of Pennsylvania's great Oil Creek, mister.

    William Gibson and Bruce Sterling, The Difference Engine

    Only those with unshakable psych profiles were assigned to the outlying agronomy posts; the screening was almost as rigid as that for deep space.

    Margaret Wander Bonanno, Strangers from the Sky

    One summer afternoon Mrs Oedipa Maas came from from a Tupperware party whose hostess had put perhaps too much kirsch in the fondue to find that she, Oedipa, had been named executor, or she supposed executrix, of the estate of one Pierce Inverarity, a California real estate mogul who had once lost two million dollars in his spare time but still had assets numerous and tangled enough to make the job of sorting it all out more than honorary.

    Thomas Pynchon, The Crying of Lot 49 (opening line)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    My immediate gut reaction to a rule as general as this is that there's fat chance it's universally applicable, there will always be cases where active would be clunky.

    Like I can't imagine an RPG protagonist exclaiming that "Someone trapped this chest!" instead of the 100% more natural "This chest was trapped!"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    @V0ldek That's an RPG protagonist protagging. Not prose fiction. (This thought brought to you b/c I've lately been reading a multivolume LitRPG epic that I had to bail on midway through book 3 because the author dropped into passive voice with extreme clunkiness at random, infrequent intervals, making for a jarring read.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I struggled with passive wording until I learned certain tells like my use of the word "would". Once you learn what words to look out for you start to actively reword things as you write them. Asking AI to rework your passive tone isn't going to rewire your brain to write better.

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