Neutral and Chaotic Evil.
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I'm neutral good apparently as it's the only show I know.
considering alec baldwin hasa tendancy to discharge his gun sound about right.
too bad isaip went from chaotic evil to neutral in the later seasons.
no curb your enthusiam?
It's chaotic neutral until you hit the evil timeline

None of them fit as well as Sunny for chaotic evil.
Fey and Poehler occupying the entire Lawful column is insane, and the truth.
Ok the only two I recognize are also the ones that have the show name on them. What about the other 7?
i dont recognized the middle left. top left: parks and recs, and then brookyln 99,
the middle right is community
the bottom is 30rock, arrested development and isaip.
Parks and Recreation - Scrubs - Brooklyn Nine Nine.
Kimmy Schmidt - The Office - Community.
30 Rock - Arrested Development - Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
I always forget 30 rock existed
It's so good too
As long as it's not like the office I might give it a go, couldn't get past episode two
30 rock is one of the very few shows that does not have a noticeable dip in quality.
It's just really fucking funny from beginning to end.
Tina Fey is a god.
This is a good list of comedies in my opinion (not that into B99 tho) but I think 30 Rock is the most underrated one on here
too bad alec baldwin made it wierd now, people cant stop thinking about him in every role where doesnt have a gun to peoples head, he has been a couple movies where had guns pointed at peoples head.
Oh dude, give it a chance.
30 Rock has the highest jokes-per-minute of any TV series, according to this extremely unscientific and rigor-less measurement.
Tina Fey is brilliant and everything she touches is worth sampling.
Of course - never watched any of them. To be honest y also didn't watch scrubs either but I saw too many ads about their episodes back in the pre streaming era so I recognize some of the cast. Thanks
Parks and Rec, Scrubs, Brooklyn 99,
???, The Office, Community,
30 Rock, Arrested Development, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Kimmy Schmidt made me actually laugh out loud the first time I watched it. It's worth a watch imo
I didn't think I actually watch a lot of TV, but fuck me, I've seen pretty much every episode of every one of these shows, minus Brooklyn 99. Made it like 3 seasons and got bored with it.
If you liked every one of those shows, I can guarantee you that you'll like the rest of B99. Early seasons focus a lot on Jake, Holt and Amy, but later seasons get more variety in leads and storylines. There's a bunch of very good recurring concepts too, comparable to the Community paintball episodes. The series only gets stronger as it progresses imo.
All these are good (although I never saw the end of The Office), but I'm chaotic evil. IASIP is my all time favourite US sitcom (Peep Show being my favourite UK sitcom).
The office is in no way neutral, it’s definitely in the evil scale. You’re meant to hate all the characters.
Even Jim and Pam? Or Daryl? I mean Toby naturally. But that's just one guy.
Michael and Dwight and Angela and Ryan and Stanley and of course Kelly are all villains in their own way
I don't know if Michael is a villain. He is dumb. But I don't know if his motivation is malice. And Stanley just cheated on his wife. The others I can agree with. However, that doesn't mean ALL were evil. Meredith and Phyllis weren't evil.
Michael wasn't malicious, just so incompetent and oblivious to it that he was a villain. Stanley was grumpy and lazy which is what made him work against the others to thwart them. That also makes him a villain in my book
Jim and Pam constantly pull pranks on Dwight that he has no fun in. It’s fun for the viewer, but they’re still terrible people. Daryl is also funny but mean as hell. If you’re putting always sunny and arrested development down there then yes, the office goes down there too. No clue why 30 rock is down in evil though.
30 rock has Alec Baldwin and Tracy Morgan. Both their characters alone are up to no good.
Yeah but every story needs an antagonist. It’s when the entire cast is antagonists that you get the evil layer, e.g. the office, arrested development, sunny etc.
I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall
I'd argue it switches over time from lawful evil to chaotic good.
Hmm, I think the family leading up to the show seems like it might be kinda Arrested Development, but during the show I don't think they really ever do anything "evil".
Huh...my favorites are all of the evils
Someone told me to skip the first season of always sunny if I watch it, do you agree?
I found the first season superb. The characters weren't as well defined as later on, but some of the plots were amazing and brutal!
Yeah the last 2 episodes of season one were great, the last episode of season 2 felt like a great climb and then just collapsed at the end I feel. Like they didn't know where they wanted to go and just put it on a character not knowing where they wanted to go as a cliff hanger
All these shows are bangers, well done!
I'm Chaotic Evil. I've been watching IASIP since season 1 and could probably quote every line.
Shouldn’t Brooklyn Nine-Nine be lawful good?
The only lawful persons art Holt and Amy. For Jake, Gina, Scully, Hitchcock, and everybody else : it's chaotic.
I think the Chaotic rating works, no? Between Jake's die hard antics and Scully & Hitchcock being themselves, I think it fits.
I only know 3 of these shows and they're all awesome
If you like any of these shows, I strongly recommend the rest. They all scratch that same itch for me, extremely well-written, clever comedies (that is to say, the jokes are often clever, the characters are often not).
Lawful Good: Parks and Recreation
Neutral Good: Scrubs
Chaotic Good: Brooklyn 99
Lawful Neutral: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
True Neutral: The Office
Chaotic Neutral: Community
Lawful Evil: 30 Rock
Neutral Evil: Arrested Development
Chaotic Evil: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Yep, clearly chaotic good.
The copaganda show .... as chaotic good?
No. Heck no.
The Good Place is a much better fit.
eh, woke cops is a liberal fantasy, to be sure. Brooklyn 99 was put in an awkward spot in 2020 and did its best to try and talk about them. I do think it was made with the best of intentions, and the cop stuff is mostly like, a parody of cop stuff tropes, rather than a fetishization of the cops themselves (like, say, Law and Order.) Maybe it doesn't excuse it totally, but it is really worse than say, Parks and Rec's cheery depiction of depiction of politics (especially when it goes national)?
Part of what convinces me of it's earnestness is how focused it was on representation. Theres a story about how when Stefanie Beatriz found out Melissa Fumero got the part of Amy, she was convinced well, that was it, they cast the Latina woman. I forget if they made the part of Rosa for her or they liked her so much they just cast her as it, but like, the cast being so diverse stands out compared to some of the more whiter casts on this very list. (and Im not knocking any show on this list, honestly. I liked them all except for The Office, which I never watched, and whatever LN is)
Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren't really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you're mad at the only cop show I've ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that's literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that's just one example.
You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.
American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like
"Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"
And holt reminded him that it's still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues
Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.
However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️
Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.
Oh wow, old school police were racists… glad they aren’t anymore!”
Whoosh
You
Newer SVU episodes also acknowledge the issues and often essentially have the message that they (the very specific SVU team) are the only non-terrible NYPD team even within their own universe. I can't speak to the other law and orders as I haven't seen them.
It is copaganda but they're trying their best. SVU in particular seems pretty self aware that it's pretty much fantasy at this point.
try House for chaotic good
also maybe instead of "random shows that some dude watches" you could go for a theme like medical shows, cop shows, whatever?
(oops all the cop shows would be lawful evil)
House himself is a bad man though. He only helps people because it feeds his ego. Plus all the other shows are sitcoms and House isn't really.
Agree, I imagine House only got a medical degree because he was effortlessly a straight-A student and it fed his ego.
I mean the whole show is about how none of that matters when you save someone's life who would be dead otherwise
He had his moments of humanity, and it was to satisfy his curiosity as much as ego.
hes also somewhat amoral, because of his injury. the closest characther to another show would dr rush in SGU, they both had similar experiences that caused to be callous.
Oh no, my tastes tell me I am all four on the bottom right, so, basically chaotic evil and neighbours 🤔
Puck from Gargoyles decided to mimic the most serious person he could find and serve a billionaire. All because he thought it would be hilarious. This is chaotic neutral. This continues to blow my mind.
I've never been so proud to've moved from CN to CE. 😭🤘🏼
(Which seems, by this graph, to be the natural progression.)
What are the middle and bottom lawful shows?


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