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[–] 73 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

Isn't this just news, rather than TIL?
Maybe I'm wrong

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago

    This isn't a TIL; it's news.

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  • WOW, AWESOME! I bet they do the exact opposite The USA does with benefits for truck & other gas powered automobiles.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Oil executives are able to get the US government to invade other countries and dismantle functioning public transport, domestic auto sales are a piece of cake.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    We used to do EV and Solar rebates, until the leadbrained voters decided they wanted more lead apparently

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Wow....

    How are petrol sales and what the infrastructure look like now? Is there much change there yet?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Some gas stations, mostly ones without the store, are closing in saturated areas but most are still there just with charging stations in the lot next to the pumps.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    WOW, that's truly amazing. That rate keeps up for long enough, they'll replace almost everything for electric.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    That's what happens when you make it cheaper. Everyone else has dropped subsidies.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You don't even need to subsidies electric. You just need to tax all carbon and pollution at the actual cost to society.

    The only reason petrol is preferred elsewhere is due to the lack of infrastructure. You can get petrol/gas everywhere. Charging your car is less reliable and needs effort to find. While it's not really a problem for most people's driving habits day to day, it's a perceived problem.

    As energy prices continue to rise and solar continues to drop, it will become more and more economical to have electric car and solar charging.

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  • It is not just lack of enough infrastructure, but it is more foundational so that The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners have members who own oil & gas monopolizing companies.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, that's what subsidies the oil and gas but it's the external expenses to society that are the biggest subsidy. That's what carbon taxes or carbon trading schemes are designed to address. This, the true cost makes oil and gas uneconomical compared to green energy.

    It's like Walmart underpaying their workers, so they are entitled to food aid. The tru cost of living is not reflected in their wages. We all end up subsidizing the company instead of them paying their fair share.

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  • [+] 14 points 9 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And how much oil did they sell?

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I’m sorry but if you’re drilling and selling massive amounts of oil I don’t care how many electric cars you drive. All that oil’s on you.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    That raises a question... What creates the emissions, the selling or the burning?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Definitely burning. It is possible to make reusable plastics out of oil, e.g.

    Of course, plastics might have their own problems, but they aren't always CO2 emissions.

    It seems unlikely we'll be able to completely eliminate plastics (current medical practices is the sticking point I see), tho we can certainly make a more "circular economy" around them, to reduce the need for oil extraction.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Is it the casino's fault the gamblers have such an easy time ruining their life and reaching bankruptcy? Is it the fault of the celebrity for making such an enticing commercial and being in partnership with the casinos?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Regulation is better than prohibition, it seems like sometimes if you cut off supply, demand means the supplier changes (eg. vapes, gambling)… whereas some things are easily replaced, there’re viable/easier alternatives (eg. coal, types of betting). What is deemed “personal responsibility” in one locale is exploitative in another; capitalist or predatory? It’s not easy

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I was optimistic for a while that we could be dragged kicking and screaming into the future, and the scary part is that musk made it possible. At this point I don’t expect that news from the us in my lifetime

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Okay but 2000 electric cars is still bad because thats 2000 more cars on the road than needed. Almost every car is bad, that includes electric ones.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Don't let perfection be the enemy of progress.

    Also, in Norway some people live 5km from their nearest neighbor. Oslo has pretty good public transport, I guess most other cities do as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but i didnt say that its not progress. Also its pretty fucking annoying when you have two pretty large cities and theres a straight highway connecting them but when you take the train its so bad that its faster to go through sweden. Also you cant tell me that a country with as much money as norway cant build a proper fast train line that goes up north. Theres a straight-ish train line to trondheim from oslo and its still slower than going by car. Also norway being a rich country, they probably(im kinda guessing here) switch cars pretty often, and upfront environmental damage for electric cars is even worse than gasoline ones.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I'm guessing they don't throw the cars into a landfill, they resell them (maybe to other countries) so people who can't afford a new electric car then buy them and reduce the gas consumed even more.

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  • [+] -19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    *gasoline or diesel. You cannot use petrol without refinement.

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