I have been expecting such a move during his last term already. Not looking up is easier with blinders on.

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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Man I fucking hate that graph included in the article. I hate how common it is to remove all context from graphs like that.

Bear in mind I'm not challenging the premise at all! I just, I dunno, get fucking triggered by shit visualizations like that.

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Mauna Loa is a national treasure. It's one of the greatest things about America.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Call your representatives!

    Find and contact elected officials | USAGov https://share.google/szZpLwoHrDugLdpFY

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    They're shutting it down to give ownership to the Natives of Hawaii, right???

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Im a bit mixed with this because yeah if it was going to be conserved with stewardship given to native hawaiians or some such then it would be great. On the other hand if its going to be turned into hawaii's first great coal mine....

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know it's a joke, but in case you're wondering: there's no coal on Hawaii. It's too young, geologically speaking.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was wondering about if there is any iron on the Hawaiian islands the other day, specifically because I knew they were pretty young geologically speaking. This train of thought was inspired by Vintage Story, and my complete inability to find bauxite.

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  • I don't believe so. IIRC from my mineralogy & petrology courses, minable quantities of most metals occur from 4 sources:

    1. hydrothermal deposits: where water impregnates crustal rock at a high temperature and pressure, dissolving metals, which are then released as the water cools.
    2. placer deposits: where small crystals of metal ores are chipped away by erosion and carried by fluid. Those dense particles settle out from the liquid as soon as it slows down, so they all end up concentrated in specific places in rivers, lakes, etc.
    3. pegmatites & layered intrusions: these are igneous bodies which, due to the processes of their formation, tend to create either very large crystals of rare minerals (pegmatites), or significant concentrations of those rare metals over an entire magma chamber (layered intrusions). Hawaii doesn't exhibit the necessary geologic conditions for either of these cases.
    4. banded iron formations: caused when, during the Great Oxygenation Event, microbes bound oxygen atoms to iron ions in the early ocean, effectively eating the energy of that reaction, as Iron ions became less stable with higher oxygen fugacity, and the Iron Oxide that was created, suddenly insoluble, sank to the ocean floor.

    As a very recent mantle-plume-driven volcanic arc, Hawaii doesn't exhibit the necessary conditions for any of these in great degrees, so you would not expect to find any serious metal deposits there.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    We all know Trump probably doesn't know that there are natives, and if he does then it's straight fuck you to them. I am not expecting a more right-wing president to deviate from the sacred tradition of fucking over the indigenous.

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  • americans stop colonising and imperialising the kingdom of hawaii challenge

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  • [+] -4 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Really? Because privatization does not lower costs. I mean, seriously think this through - in addition to the operational costs, you are adding a layer of parasitic "capitalists" who intend to personally profit from the situation. Please explain to me how in the hell x + y is supposed to give you a lower final total than x + nothing?!?

    And when everything goes to hell because there are now parasitic sociopaths siphoning away the money, the final result is almost always to sell everything off to a "private equity" that will dismantle shit and sell it off to the highest bidder. Because that's what private equity is - a way to transfer the value to an individual, thus depriving the public of whatever service or product involved.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Holy hell, way to move the goal posts. 🤣

    but if a nonprofit with funding from say a dozen different countries

    That would not be a private entity...?

    Unfortunately, you're chasing a pipe dream. Sorry, but it's true.

    But I can't fault you for trying to hold onto hope. What the fuck else do we have anymore?

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    It'd be worth saving, that's for sure (the observatory).

    But, not just anger; what is required is the righteous fury from the stories that inspired the christian bible. Not the faux outrage of modern day hypocrites, but true, overwhelming fury at these injustices.

    Until then...more lives will be taken. 😔

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Let’s all go hold hands and tell them to cut it out.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Proof that this isn't just austerity, this is a war on science.

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