Have you tried being rich? I highly recommend it.

In 2017 I bought a refurbished lenovo p2 for 300 that lasted me until 2024. Out of boredom, non because i needed it to change, i bought a refurbished s20 ultra for 350, still my daily driver.

No one is forcing anyone to buy a top gamma phone every year for 1400€

It's such a weird marketing pitch though...

Can Communicator be used as my primary phone? Yes! Absolutely. Communicator is a fully standalone smartphone that runs Android 16, with all the apps, 5G connectivity and Wi-fi. We think many people will use this as their primary phone while others will use it as a complement to a flagship iPhone, Galaxy, Pixel, etc.

Unfortunately the GrapheneOS team said it doesn't meet their requirements. Their requirements are suuuuuuper specific which is why it's only on Pixel devices.

They have said that the bootloader can be unlocked, so some sort of ROM support is possible.

GrapheneOS complete requirements:

• Support for using alternate operating systems including full hardware security functionality
• Complete monthly Android Security Bulletin patches without any regular delays longer than a week for device support code (firmware, drivers and HALs)
• At least 5 years of updates from launch for device support code with phones (Pixels now have 7) and 7 years with tablets
• Device support code updated to new monthly, quarterly and yearly releases of AOSP within several months to provide new security improvements (Pixels receive these in the month they're released)
• Linux 6.1, 6.6 or 6.12 Generic Kernel Image (GKI) support
• Hardware accelerated virtualization usable by GrapheneOS (ideally pKVM to match Pixels but another usable implementation may be acceptable)
• Hardware memory tagging (ARM MTE or equivalent)
• Hardware-based coarse grained Control Flow Integrity (CFI) for baseline coverage where type-based CFI isn't used or can't be deployed (BTI/PAC, CET IBT or equivalent)
• PXN, SMEP or equivalent
• PAN, SMAP or equivalent
• Isolated radios (cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc.), GPU, SSD, media encode / decode, image processor and other components
• Support for A/B updates of both the firmware and OS images with automatic rollback if the initial boot fails one or more times
• Verified boot with rollback protection for firmware
• Verified boot with rollback protection for the OS (Android Verified Boot)
• Verified boot key fingerprint for yellow boot state displayed with a secure hash (non-truncated SHA-256 or better)
• StrongBox keystore provided by secure element
• Hardware key attestation support for the StrongBox keystore
• Attest key support for hardware key attestation to provide pinning support
• Weaver disk encryption key derivation throttling provided by secure element
• Insider attack resistance for updates to the secure element (Owner user authentication required before updates are accepted)
• Inline disk encryption acceleration with wrapped key support
• 64-bit-only device support code
• Wi-Fi anonymity support including MAC address randomization, probe sequence number randomization and no other leaked identifiers
• Support for disabling USB data and also USB as a whole at a hardware level in the USB controller
• Reset attack mitigation for firmware-based boot modes such as fastboot mode zeroing memory left over from the OS and delaying opening up attack surface such as USB functionality until that's completed
• Debugging features such as JTAG or serial debugging must be inaccessible while the device is locked

Even LineageOS would be amazing.

The hardware security measures graphene wants are very expensive. Plus, GOS wants quick android security patche

They've announced 5 years of support.

And it's small but not really small. Here is a 3d printed mockup next to a Galaxy S25 Ultra

It's every bit as wide, just shorter.

But I meant compromises that would make it not usable as a phone.

It has a headphone jack? They must lack courage.

Very nice!

you may be locked out of using specific security focused apps such as banking apps.

they locked me out already, so it does not matter. they can't play the same card twice.

I've yet to try a Linux Touch distro on a phone, but couldn't you just save a shortcut to the website?

Android uses a modified version of the Linux kernel.

when people say linux phones, the point is not the kernel but believing it could have the same open ecosystem as the linux PC. no forced lockdown, no spyware, open source and in turn extensible system software, where its not the oligarchs who dictate. other then the first point these can be told about mostly none of the current phones, and even the first point is going away recently, despite that being the only way to get rid of the preinstalled, google mandated (and sometimes additional) malware.

Some people do that, most commonly with one being a "work" phone. But I think the idea is insane for the majority of people.

Probably a purist complaining it's not the fabled mythical Linux phone.

It even has some of the design team from Blackberry

Someone said with the SOC it has third party ROM's will be questionable. I haven't taken the time to check that out but it would be great to have one device out there that still be tailored to the individual.

It's good, no annoying UI gotchas, never had a problem with calling/receiving/texts. Waydroid works great using F-Droid/Aurora store.

Why risky? The company is not new, they’ve been selling cases with keyboard to a few years.

It’s their first phone indeed but it’s quite cheap so wor ty giving a try imo

Supposedly they're offering a refund up until it ships if you want. It's not a completely brand new company so it doesn't seem super risky. I do it with a credit card that way you can do a chargeback if things go really bad.

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