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Shutdown risk rises after fatal Minneapolis shooting (thehill.com)
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The risk of a partial government shutdown at the end of January grew more likely Saturday after Senate Democrats vowed to block a funding package over a fatal Minneapolis shooting involving federal law enforcement authorities.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) on Saturday evening said that Democrats will block a major government funding package if it includes money for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), calling the actions of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis “appalling.”

“What’s happening in Minnesota is appalling — and unacceptable in any American city,” Schumer said in a statement.

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[–] 114 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'd be nice if they kept their word but I'm not betting on it.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's not Schumer saying they're gonna do it like he's leading a charge...

    It's Schumer pre-emptivly taking credit for what's inevitable.

    Otherwise he'd just keep blabbering about compromise.

    That's why I'd bet on it.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago*

    Oh they'll get a little bit of news coverage for a little while and then just vote for the funding anyway.

    I swear to God they will vote to ban being able to film ICE while funding them with "required" body cams. I swear to fucking God. I think of the dumbest thing the Democrats can do and then they do something even dumber. So I shouldn't even say anything.

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    • [–] 85 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I have 0 faith they will actually put their money where their mouth is. Time and time again they prove to be a feckless group of cowards.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    In the words of the Joker:

    If you're with me, I can promise you that I will be behind you ALL THE WAY. Sometimes, that might mean I'm locked up tight in a bomb proof bunker behind you, but don't worry! I'll always make sure you are there to protect me.

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    • [–] 57 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Shutdown risk? How about the risks of not shutting down this government

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    • [–] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Schumer will sell out the American people. I guarantee it

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    • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They will say all the right things; draw it out for a month, then vote to back state sponsored murder of USA citizens, just like they did with health care last year.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    The pressure to fund the IRS and therefore process returns and refunds will be huge. It's literally the built in exist to fund this. You either deny funding and Americans don't get their refunds or you fund it and the United States continues to brutalize it's citizens.

    Democrats are so good at losing that it became their only tool.

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    • [–] 29 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Schumer, this is your one chance in history to do the right thing.

    Don't fuck this up like you fuck up everything else.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You mean 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th,...... This isn't his first rodeo to screw everyone

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This is different. This is a history defining moment.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    So was the last one just a couple months ago

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Guy. A battle over entitlements is NOT the same as a battle over whether the Gestapo can continue to act.

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    • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm sure they'll fight just as hard as when they took a stand against Republicans and got the ACA subsidies back....oh, wait, they didn't do shit because the party is pathetic and folks like a bitch when the rubber his the road.

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    • [–] 24 points 9 months ago

    Do the right most-basic-easy-low-effort-sign-of-resistance thing

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    I don't believe anything this guys says

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    [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's what the Bailey's would want. I asked them.

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    • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    All our government is doing is ripping us off, hassling working people, threatening our allies, and murdering people in the streets. What is the fucking point of keeping it operational?

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  • [+] -13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Because the only thing worse than a broken government is none at all. Do you want to be Germany 1945 or do you want to be Somalia?

    Edit, because some people need it explained: see Mogadishu's last 70 years vs Germany's. One went from a cosmopolitan tourist destination with bustling cities and ports through civil war and through warlordism to where it's trying to rebuild, bit by bit, and the other went from an abhorrent life lesson on brutal fascism to the leader of the free world (but I'd debate its status this decade). The potential to improve is the key, and I think it had a lot to do with the nature of the conflict each underwent, and the causes behind their collapse.

    We now return you to your knee-jerk down-voting.

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    • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    Why the fuck would anyone even consider funding this? It’s almost as if democrats wake up every day and find a new, more pathetic way to be spineless cucks.

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    [–] 25 points 9 months ago

    Who gives a shit at this point. Democrats have completely blocked a political path to a nonviolent outcome through their unwillingness to take seriously shitting down the government previously.

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    What this communicates is Renee Goods killing was fine, but Alex's was too far?

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    [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    America is dead

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    [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    "And another one!"

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Strongly-worded letter to follow.

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    [–] -3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I am pretty amazed at the hate and negativity towards Dems. They condemned the murder that happened and nothing but hate in this thread. Dems do not have a majority in any branch of government, what exactly can they do? They look weak because they actually do not have any power. Instead of directing the hate towards people calling victims domestic terrorists the hate is directed towards the only allies we have government.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Not true actually, they could have blocked the ACA funding cuts but magically just enough dems switched to allow the wildly unpopular cuts. The Republicans didn't shut down the government by voting no on a temporary resolution that would cut aca funding, the dems did, then said haha just kidding as soon as they got support for blocking it (???)

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They did block the funding cuts in the longest shutdown the country has seen (so far). I was disappointed in the cuts but Dems were running out of options, Republicans were talking about getting rid of the filibuster, which they will do if Dems block them for too long. Ending the shutdown allowed for the vote on the Epstein files. It also hung the consequences of the cuts on the current administration while also making a statement that the Dems were against it. If they had held out, it's likely they would lose even more power. Let's face it, in the current political climate the Dems have a very shitty hand. Direct the hate where it belongs: Republicans.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    The dems had the support of their entire base and most of the country, Republicans ending the philibuster and shoving it through anyway would have been extremely unpopular, even among their base. Everyone I knew was talking about how the Republicans were refusing to negotiate, then right after everyone was talking about how the dems folded as they always do.. Even if they DID end the philibuster, it would show people democrats are finally trying every option possible like the Republicans have been doing for the last 10 years. The dems can make whatever statement they want, Republicans will enforce a police state but at least I know my representative was upset about it. Yes we got the epstein files with about 2 lines unredacted, I think most people would prefer their representatives fight for their healthcare instead.

    This is also not a 1 time thing, Republicans philibuster Obama's scotus pick, and democrats say "well that's improper we can't do that back." Just about every chance they've had to fold they have and people are sick of it. If someone is beating a person up and I wag my finger at them, I'm not as bad as the person beating them up, but I'm sure not doing anything to stop it.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Getting rid of the filibuster would be good for our Democracy. That's what has been used regularly by Republicans to stall and blockade acts in the Senate. Would that have happened? I don't think so. Trump was demanding Republicans to remove the Filibuster on Truth, but Trump's Truth Social posts are the least consistent metric for what this administration will do.

    About the shutdown: from a humanitarian view, communities were banding together; giving with food drives and free meals to feed people when SNAP benefits were withheld -- and that withholding was being challenged in the courts. Lower courts sided with the states on giving out that money. The SCotUS ended up copping out on making a decision because the shutdown was reversed. Had they made a choice, I think the SNAP benefits would have been distributed. At the very least, Senate Dems could have waited until the ruling was made.

    You know what communities can't band together to distribute? Healthcare. The ACA funding was far more important than SNAP benefits.

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