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[–] [S] 111 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This was nothing less than a execution of an American citizen.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I saw this posted on another thread and think it's a fantastic summary. I wish they had video links or gifs instead of stills but all if this is pretty easy to find. This is indefensible.

    https://resistmap.substack.com/p/they-took-his-gun-then-they-shot

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  • [–] 77 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Every ice goon has a gun, they should be viewed as an immediate threat to your life on sight

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  • [–] 44 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'd say 'unbelievable' but it's very believable. They just fucking executed that guy.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    He was on the floor when he decided to start shooting? Thats even worse than I thought

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    And they maced him before that. This dude was virtually incapable of posing a threat. The DHS narrative is insane. He was fucking trying to help two women being shoved around by ice lol. Who can watch this and not see the diabolical lies?

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I hope it gets uploaded to another place. Imgur compressed the ever living shit out of that.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    When I see police shootings like this, I always wonder how unarmed British cops would handle such a situation. I'm against defunding the police in general, but defunding their gun budget I think would go a long, long way.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I think removing their union protections (I'm a union member and I don't think they should be afforded the same types of protections since they're not labor, they're the armed section of government who are the only ones allowed to use force on the citizens) and making them carry insurance would be a start. Then, moving their budget to do something about the fact that so many of their calls are to deal with mental health crises which they're not trained for. Plus, for as large as their budgets are, I'd expect better results in solving crimes. Lots of police departments average something like 25% solve rate which includes things like when people turn themselves in.

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  • [–] 44 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    The fascists wouldn't behave this way if they thought there was any chance of repercussions.

    I guarantee they will be outside polling places wherever the constituents have IQs above room temperature.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Seems like they need to fear repercussions.

    Since I'm in Canada and safe from the five eyes bullshit now...

    Do ICE agents have radio systems? My observation is that many don't. What happens if you manage to separate a couple of them?

    Do they go outside to smoke when they're at their hotels? Getting shot at on a smoke break seems pretty scary. What if ICE agents started to disappear?

    What they want for their civil war is a character they can point to as a central villain. If agents get picked off and no one gets caught, they don't have the character they need for the story they want to tell.

    I sincerely wish there was more I could do. Good luck.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Since I'm in Canada and safe from the five eyes bullshit now...

    Hate to tell you this, buddy, but Canada is one of the five eyes countries...

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Do NOT even SUGGEST hurting these MEN! That would ESCALATE things and Then they might Start MURDERING AMERICANS IN COLD BLOOD!

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I'll say it again, until these people fear for their own lives, nothing will change.

    This means peaceful protest is not the answer. Sorry.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The Americans get very upset when you point out what theyre doing isnt enough. Its like the myth of American exceptionalism will magically protect them from reality.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I get it because I used to be that way. I've hand-waved a lot in my life because I naively felt the swinging pendulum would balance things. I believed shit like good always prevails, taking the high-road will pay off, etc.

    But as I dug into it more and learned more and saw more, it is undeniable what is actually happening. We've been on a bad path for a long, long time and the slow frog boil has duped many.

    And because things are so far gone at this point, what used to appear to work won't anymore. What comforts and conveniences some of us used to be able to somewhat hide behind no longer exists.

    Sadly, I'm not sure a critical mass of people are ready to face and accept this reality. I'll be honest, part of me barely is, but most of me knows the truth. I also know my line of work gives me the luxury of being able to care and take a step back sometimes - not everyone has that and it is purposely manufactured to be that way.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Im glad to hear this, honestly. I think people are taking it personally when people from other countries point it out but it isnt out of malice. We're concerned for you and your country and instead of listening the overwhelming response has been to lash out. Its baffling from the outside perspective.

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  • I think it's mostly just fear. Like a fear-induced executive disfunction.

    Reminding them "you need to get out and do something, you need to get out and do something, you need to urge your representatives to get out and fucking do something" sounds to them a lot like you've just tied a bungee to their waste and are telling them to jump off the bridge. And they've been afraid of heights their whole life, you know?

    Unironically, we have too many sugary treats here for a meaningful resistance to mount yet. American's lives need to get less comfortable before they (finally) start feeling like they have nothing to lose.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Well all these people are murderers now. What the fuck

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    This was a public execution.

    He was legally armed.

    They disarmed him.

    Placed him in handcuffs. He may not have been cuffed, a different angle video I can’t see his hands behind his back. It originally looked like they cuffed him on the ground.

    Then shot him on the ground repeatedly.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    So I've been out all day and haven't seen videos yet, but I didn't know he was already disarmed. At that point what does it even matter that he had a gun, wtf. A gun has nothing to do with the murder.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Okay I got home and saw the video now. That's fucking insane and straight up murder. Like why did they even shoot multiple times after the first shot, he was laying on the ground wtf.

    Edit: Also same with with the Ross murder. That first shot, maybe he thought he was in danger even though he literally put himself in that danger through incompetence, but then he shoots her twice more when no longer in danger. The same thing happened here. I can't tell what happened in that first shot, but the next shots, he was on the ground and no danger. Are they taught to triple shoot people if they shoot or something like wtf. Like leave no survivors?

    Edit: Seen some other videos now, guess it was more than just the 3 shots I heard in the first one, fucking bonkers.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    His possession of a firearm matters because the reich wingnuts have already tried to say he threatened ICE with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    How does that even matter if he was disarmed.

    Let's say that's true.

    He was disarmed.

    Now the gun doesn't play into shooting him.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think the only thing clear from the multiple videos is that he was not handcuffed. No idea why would you say he was.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Love how they all back away like nope

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago

    In that moment, they learned this is real life. They all clearly aren't trained. If they were to be attacked by someone else with a real weapon, they would literally piss themselves. They should not be in the position they are in, where that is a real potential outcome in their line of work.

    They're also all going to have that memory seared into their minds for the rest of the years, whether they face real consequences or not. I hope the trauma ends their lives early as well, if I were then I'd be thinking about turning the gun on myself after doing that to an innocent man. But then again, I'm a human being

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 9 months ago

    So far what's been identified is the murder victim was a 37-year-old white male, a resident of Minneapolis, with no criminal past beyond traffic tickets and a legal gun owner.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    State sponsored domestic terrorism

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Here's a multi angle link that's being updated regularly as new video comes in.

    https://eyesupapp.com/video/89d854e9-424c-47ea-a585-f3c72351e6e7

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Anyone know of tools to combine multi angle videos into a 3d animation?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Time to start shooting back

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Murder is the technical term for what happened

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    They’ve declared war, it’s time to start making ice melt

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Remember what the mayor said: defeat them with love and hugs.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    They claim he had a gun, obviously. From the video it's impossible to tell if he did.

    To be precise, they claim 'they were approach by a man with a gun' and that 'officers tried to disarm the man but ended up shooting him dead.' which is obviously a lie. They attacked him and tried to arrest him for protesting. By the time they might have noticed a gun (if he had one) 5 guys were already trying to pin him down. Cold blooded murder.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I don't know, seems like somebody should do something about this.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Minnesota needs to recall their congresspeople. Like tell them to come home. Then other states need to follow. Refuse to participate.

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    So I wonder what the hypocrites in the NRA will also be handling this now that a law abiding gun owner was murdered by the Republican government.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Red coat was abducted.

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    [–] [S] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This was just a straight up public execution.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Don't forget beating the shit out of him first.

    This is a warning. You do as you're told, or you'll get beaten and then executed. Might aswell shoot first.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    They tried "remember what happened to Renee" not understanding that that is how you get the most resistance. Now they're doubling down to make sure we know that they're not bluffing, but I really don't think they understand the gravity of it. They just tripled the amount of animosity towards themselves, and asking us to remember is stupid as shit, we're never going to forget.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    After he was disarmed. He was legally allowed to carry the firearm. He was prone on the ground and unarmed when they murdered him.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    So far what's known is that this murder victim was a 37-year-old white male, a resident of Minneapolis, with no criminal past beyond traffic tickets, and a legal gun owner.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    The article says 51 year old man. Are there other sources contradicting that?

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    Every ice goon has a gun, they should be viewed as an immediate threat to your life on sight

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