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Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37.
No criminal history. A lawful gun owner with a valid conceal carry permit.

I haven't commented on any of the content of this story until now.

Pay very close attention the the 'agent' wearing the grey coat, with his back to the camera before he turns around and walks towards it holding a gun.

He goes in hands empty, retrieves the gun from the suspects waistband, at the small of his back, and leaves before the first shot is fired.

Every shot was fired, by federal agents, at an unarmed individual. Plain murder.

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[–] 70 points 9 months ago*

That's not even a murder, that is a straight up execution.

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  • [–] 62 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    From this angle, it does look like all the shots were fired by ICE.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Thank you, this is the first video I've seen of the start of the interaction. It's a little hard to tell, but it doesn't look like the victim ever drew his gun. Bovino claimed in a press conference that ICE believed he had threatened ICE with his gun, which I'm currently doubting.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    There's another video that shows a man in a tan jacket standing up from and walking away from the dogpile immediately before the first shot. He has a pistol with a holographic sight mounted on the slide, pointed at the ground. This appears to be the victim's pistol.

    It is the 15MB file, starting with AA67, in this Proton Drive

    It appears that this officer disarmed the victim, then discharged the victim's weapon into the pavement. This appears to be the first round fired.

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  • [+] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I highly doubt it was intentional. That would require a certain degree of competence that is entirely lacking here. From the agent's initial and unecessary provocation, to the escalation with pepper spray, to the vicious attack on a compliant subject, there is no evidence of competency here. That the officer handling the victim's weapon lacked the most basic weapons handling skills seems on par.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not really seeing your point. Why is competence a prerequisite for premeditated murder? Especially since they actually fucked up and got caught on video.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Hanlon's Razor. Incompetence adequately explains everything that happened here, and is, IMO, much more damaging. A competent group of conspirators can be brought under control. An incompetent group can't help but continue fucking up, time and time again.

    The latter is much more dangerous.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    This is the one that needs to be at the top. Someone posted this below, so yes, AA67 definitely shows grey guy taking the victims gun before the execution happens.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    we get it he had a gun, but why did the gray-coat not indicate to them that he's been disarmed? They just shouted "Gun..Gun..", then that ill-trained trigger-happy lowlife who shot him literally pushed the grey-coat agent away before shooting him in the back. I can't believe he did not realize that he was disarmed. There is no excuse

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I want pink coats footage. I hope she got the hell out of there.

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  • [–] 96 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There was no reason... pure murder

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    Just remember. Jeffries and the democrats just voted to increase ICEs funding with the Republicans.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Reps. Henry Cuellar (Texas), Jared Golden (Maine), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Wash.), Laura Gillen (N.Y.), Don Davis (N.C.), Tom Suozzi (N.Y.) and Vicente Gonzalez (Texas) voted for it. They should be primaried and vilified. Jefferies didn't whip the vote, but he did vote against it.

    Now it's important to pressure senators to not pass the bill.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Jared Golden already announced he's not running for re-election, and it's not because he knows he'll get primaried. He's always been Republican-lite, voting for basically everything they wanted even though he's technically a Democrat, so I assume he's on his way around the iron triangle now that he's proved his worth to his owners.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago

    Murder/execution.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I heard this on BBC radio for the first time. BBC used the press release info from the propagandists. Infuriating!

    Alex Pretti is a hero of humanity! Curse anyone who says otherwise!

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    [–] 27 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Can you please muster those militias your 2nd amendment speaks of and do something?

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    The 2A people are all applying to join ICE

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    This guy they murdered was carrying, so no.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    That doesn't make him automatically a 2A person, just an American. The 2A people are 95% in support of this. It was never about a tyrannical government to them, it was about maybe one day of getting to live out their dream of shooting a minority.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Dude had a conceal carry permit from the county Sheriff, and was monitoring illegal behavior of armed thugs. When things escalated he still sought to help others before drawing his weapon. Then he was murdered while being attacked by 7 other people.

    He was the fucking definition of a 2A person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    So if I protect someone at a protest while I have my gun and get attacked I am a 2A person? I don't want to be lumped in with them.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think you have a strong understanding of the Second Amendment, or you're arguing in bad faith.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Its the difference between someone being a "2a person" vs just excercising their second amendment right. When I or the people I know hear "2a person" those are the people with two dozen guns, who log on to social media after every school shooting to fight any regulation, who join up to militias with a bunch of white supremacists, who argue for the reversal of the Machine gun ban and against any possible gun regulation.

    I am just using the tools and rights the constitution affords me. If I exercise my first amendment people don't call me a 1A person. If everyone including the cops disarmed tomorrow, I wouldn't cry, I would rejoice.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago

    They fucking scurryed away. Not joke scurryed. Literally scurryed!

    This is our big bad, what the hell is going on in Minneapolis. Like a bunch of bullies playing a deadly prank

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Look at how the cowards run away when he's shot. Fuck them all. I hope they are all held accountable.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Every single person involved with ICE and DHS needs to be strung up on gibbets lining the national mall. We need to leave them and the gibbets there until they rot away entirely, as a long hard reminder of what happens when you allow even an ounce of fascism to thrive.

    They will just keep killing people until we do.

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  • [–] 43 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    How long until ice starts unloading full cartriges into crowds of protestors and vice-versa? This is really shaping up to be an actual civil war. Trump and his cohort was used to the politicians of democrats and not the actual people who vote for them because theres no better choice. These people will fight back. It will take one of those black panthers with a handheld cannon to be arround when something similar to this happens. Im surprised it hasnt escalated yet. I have mixed feelings about this cause i know theres no such thing as a peacefull revolution but seeing not only the innocent but even the the perpetrators die violently pains my heart. A lot of us arent idealists but we still enjoy peace, but the voilent and disgusting ruling class is forcing all of us to change and accept that violence is the solution. It was in the case of fascist italy, nazi germany and now fascist usa as well. Good luck my fellow people who just want to have a normal life but were born on the wrong side of the north atlantic.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    We should not be focusing protests at these ICE fucks, and we should not be protesting in cities and working-class neighborhoods.

    Every atrocity committed by the agents of this oligarchy, we need to be picketing the oligarchs.

    Here's five good places to start.

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  • [–] 92 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

    From my understanding:

    1. Like 6 ICE thugs were beating up this one guy

    2. The guy was trying to reach for the mace bottle first and a thug kicked it away.

    3. A single shot went off but it's too hard to tell where it came from

    4. Two ICE thugs fired a bunch of rounds into the guy as others backed away and he died

    We really need that pink lady's video I think. If the protestor fired first, then we're looking at the question of justified defense against ICE (which they'll obviously rule with ICE that it was a legal murder). If an ICE agent fired first, then it's straight up murder first degree.

    edit: I've seen three other views, and the ICE thug in the grey sweater pulled the protestor's away first, then the ICE thug in green pulled out his gun, a shot went off (I think from this guy), then the other ICE thugs got scared and started blindly shooting. This was a straight up murder.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago

    If you watch the video, the guy with the gray coat walks up to them, removes this guy's legal firearm, and walks away before the firing starts.

    They opened fire on an unarmed civilian who was on the ground.

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  • [–] 93 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    After the first shot, the guy goes limp. They shot him, then they got scared and unloaded a mag on him when he was already dead.

    The guy didn't have a chance, he was just cold blooded murder.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I see the victim swing his arms immediately after the first shot at :19. He goes down with the shots that follow.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    The green sweater guy draws his gun, fires at point blank range, the victim doesn't immediately register being shot and is still pushing back against all of them beating him, then the others hear the shot and get scared then assassinate him. There are about 3 or 4 other views now online.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    There's a guy on the left beating the victim, potentially in the head, with what looks like a capsicum spray bottle. There's a guy kneeling to his right who reaches for his right pocket and then, with his right arm, reaches towards the victim who is starting to get up before he suddenly jerks back as a shot rings out.

    In my opinion, I think that man shot the victim point blank, potentially in the chest, and this is the first shot.

    Either way, this is an execution, without question. That poor ICU nurse.

    Edit: i watched the link coat woman's video for a while, and i think the first shot (whoever it was by) was done in response to an agent accidentally falling over a little. They were on their knees, tried to get up, but as the victim struggled to get up, he accidentally shoved that agent a bit. Immediately after, the shot rings out.

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  • [–] 83 points 9 months ago (21 children)
  • [–] 59 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The armed American in this instance was murdered by armed nazis.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago

    sadly what happened. all the guns in the world are of no use if you are in his situation.

    some of the black panthers got it right: organised, trained and are bringing their legal big guns very openly and in big numbers. pretty sure that acts as a deterrent.

    but if you are alone in that poor guys situation, the nazis could beat him to death with sticks... which kind of was a nazi tactic (sturmabteilung was mainly a goon squad)

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

    That will only give them ammunition and the right optics to become even more oppressive. But there are concrete steps we can take to combat the regime with our last non-violent pathways (the titles below expand if you click them).

    Learn First Aid! ⛑️

    The future us likely to be violent, and It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt. You can never have too many medics.

    Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.

    But you'll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.

    Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.

    Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks ✊

    If you haven't already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.

    These are groups using direct action to solve each other's problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We've been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.

    This isn't only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don't want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.

    Join a Union and Prepare for an even longer General Strike! 💪

    The most effective non-violent action we can take is preparing and organizing for a General Strike.

    The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would've had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.

    If you aren't in a union (or even if you are, it's worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you'll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one, as most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike).

    And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn't listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they'll help you set up a new local branch.

    • 🇦🇷 Argentina: FORA
    • 🇦🇺 Australia: ASF-IWA
    • 🇧🇷 Brazil: FOB
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    • 🇬🇧 United Kingdom: UVW
  • Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage 🛡️

    Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.

    Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.

    Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.

    Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.

    We'll start it off with some General Advice:

    • Mentally wall off personal uniquely identifying info from your online presence, actively build a habit of opsec so that withholding information is your default mental state
    • Be careful about who you meet online
    • Use different, unrelated usernames, passwords & emails for every account. And try not to connect to those accounts with your real IP address (use Tor or a VPN)
    • Be mindful that anything done online leaves a trail
    • agents provocateurs may seek to find patsies willing to perform an ill-advised illegal activity in order to legitimize police repression. If someone is trying to pressure you, especially if you don't have a long and proven history with them, be extremely wary.

    For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you'll need to scroll down. I'd add it here, but it won't fit in this comment).

    I'd also highly recommend anyone reading this to read Full Spectrum Resistance if you can for further info.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    I really wish you'd post that as a separate post in a Lemmy community where a lot of people would find it in

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    You have my full permission to copy and repost this anywhere you think it would get the most eyeballs, I would be most grateful if you did, actually!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

    Do you have the full code for that post?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    If you're using lemmy from the standard browser UI, you can click the little paper with folded edge icon at the bottom of a comment or post to expose the raw markdown version of the text.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)
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    Sure, if you'd like, though my comment is an amalgamation of my own writing and the writings of my co-admins, @Five@slrpnk.net and @poVoq@slrpnk.net, which we assembled for our instance's Monthly Meta posts.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Where should I post your post from?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's probably that I'm quite tired, but I'm not sure what you're asking?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    You have 2 options realisticaly: move or fight. Soft-speech just let's them accumulate more power.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    It would be foolish to fight before our most powerful non-violent tools are even tried. Businesses are already shaken up by the 1 day general strike in Minneapolis, we just need to sustain a longer one, look how effective it was in Chile against a violent government.

    Do not be quick to rush into other means, especially when the enemy is already losing the optics war this badly, and thus losing popular support. Ideally you'd let them lose enough public support and generate enough public anger that you may even have blue state's national guard joining the resistance if things do become violent, which would be a great boon.

    Remember, these tactics were far more effective in Nazi Germany because Hitler and the Nazi party were loved by the majority, to the point that Germans in positions capable of initiating a resistance chose not to, due to the reality that the party was so loved, the populace themselves would reject and destroy any resistance effort. That is not the case in the US.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    This murder was 1,300 miles away. Shall I go up there and hunt them. Please provide explicit instructions. I'll wait right here smartass.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    America 101:

    • there is a problem (government overreach)

    • the only solution must be guns (hunt them)

    • but i would have to get up from the sofa (I'm soo far away)

    • so I will do nothing, and play victim online

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    it's time to start dragging these people out of their homes...

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I read that Minnesota has the highest rate of registered voters who vote in every election. This is probably why they are targeted.

    Voter registration was highest in Minnesota at 83.6% https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-voters-have-a-party-affiliation/

    Interestingly, more Minnesotans are registered Republican than Democrat or Independent. So... I wonder how this little Nazi Brownshirt brutalism bit is playing on the denizens registered Republican?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I'm assuming most of this chaos is not happening in republican electoral districts...

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    nope, and surprisingly not in the rich districts, like NYC or norcal.wish they hit schumers and JEFFERIES district. also because zohran already met with trump , and billionaires in the bay area already warned him ahead of time.

    i think hes hitting tim's state hard because he is stepping down for the race next election, as he should.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    The bloods and crips are no longer the deadliest gang in America.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Cops have always been the oldest, most established, and deadliest gang in America. They're just a state-sanctioned gang.

    Don't believe me? Check out what cops do to other cops who blow the whistle on the crooked ones. It's mobster bullshit.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    This is horrific.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Watch the other video, he stepped in to defend a woman and was attacked by the agents. If you work for the government you are a coward.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If you work for the government you are a coward.

    Not all, but anything related to ICE, absolutely. Ex works for census bureau, has nothing to do with ICE. Not like she can just jump ship, leave retirement, etc.

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