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[–] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Isn't the original post just a visualization of the history of the Chinese empire? Not sure how there was any game being played.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The tweet's caption along with the circles+text try and deny Chinese Sovereignty over historical territory based arbitrarily on how long they have controlled it. This comparison is being made by a supporter of the US. The US has possessed it's entire territory for a span of time shorter that was on this map is considered "Not Really China", thus the US has no real claim to it's territory by their logic. The big difference is that China isn't a settler colony who genocided an indigenous population to exist, unlike the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Arguably, the current Chinese entity hasn't committed genocide against indigenous populations, but previous Chinese entities most definitely have.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    But the nation of China wasn't founded on genocide. The US was. Without the genocide of the Native Americans, there would be no US.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Correct. The modern extent of China was acquired by genocide, but the notion of China itself was not.

    I think the deciding difference is the foreign invasion and colonization that funded the US vs. the near mythologic cycle of violent fracture and violent reunification of China.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    Not sure how there was any game being played.

    I'm assuming you've never seen anything Noah Smith said before (I wish that was me). Look at the flags in his twitter handle. He's an American nationalist and a NATO imperialist. It's very clear that this is a fantasy about balkanizing China.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    Going to play devil's advocate here a bit, but the US has had a continuous state since 1789 for parts of it, since the civil war for other parts, and the late 50s for small bits. It should be half orange, half yellow, with splotches of white.

    The current Chinese state was formed in 1949. This entire map should be white. The Republic of China predates its formation by at least a year, and one could argue by some 30 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Death to the settler-colonial entity know us "The United States of America", sometimes called AmeriKKKa.

    amerikkka qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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