Just want to remind people of Alex the parrot who had a strong grasp on English, could do math, and was very much a bird. Without any of the in-built brain molding that we, as humans, have for human language, Alex did pretty well. Given how common social behavior is among birds, I’d be surprised if none could communicate beyond “fuck you!” or “fuck me!”
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I think this is his most recent paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10986
Here is the abstract:
Human language can express limitless meanings from a finite set of words based on combinatorial rules (i.e., compositional syntax). Although animal vocalizations may be comprised of different basic elements (notes), it remains unknown whether compositional syntax has also evolved in animals. Here we report the first experimental evidence for compositional syntax in a wild animal species, the Japanese great tit (Parus minor). Tits have over ten different notes in their vocal repertoire and use them either solely or in combination with other notes. Experiments reveal that receivers extract different meanings from ‘ABC’ (scan for danger) and ‘D’ notes (approach the caller), and a compound meaning from ‘ABC–D’ combinations. However, receivers rarely scan and approach when note ordering is artificially reversed (‘D–ABC’). Thus, compositional syntax is not unique to human language but may have evolved independently in animals as one of the basic mechanisms of information transmission.
I think most people's intuition for "can talk" is very different from "first experimental evidence for compositional syntax in a wild animal species"
Actually, I'm likely wrong about this being their most recent work. 2016 is almost ten years ago so his lab must have done more but I'm going to move on to something else. I'd love to see more recent papers if someone wants to add them
Looking at the last author, this seems to be the last article on this subject. OpenAlex is a decent tool in my opinion to check this kind of things and it is freely accessible. Web of Science allows for more complex queries, but in most cases those are not really necessary.
https://ecoevorxiv.org/repository/view/10600/
Unsung Songbirds: Advances in the Study of Corvid Communication
Regarding the latest article by that guy on this subject, it seems like this is the last article.
https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0960982224000307
The ‘after you’ gesture in a bird
I refuse to watch video because they taught me how to read and that's more convenient:)
So what's there? Birds can "talk" more than just food, sex, danger, standby signals?
glances slowly, deliberately, painfully at the community this was posted in
As a reading person, you could have just read the description where they link to the research paper. Or you could watch the video since I had to do the resding for you anyway ;)
Then why not link to that here instead video?
Video sucks, and this is a story about language and grammar.
Then why not link to that here instead video?
Because this is a community literally about videos??
Are you asking why OP posted a video in the c/mealtimevideos community?
why not link to that here instead video
Three good reasons:
- It's a video-sharing community for watching while you eat
- The video features specific bird calls that are impossible to transcribe
- I liked the video
If you don't like the video, you're free to post the article to its relevant community.
Sadly, all the people who like and actually engage with animals (including wild ones) regularly already know this, and all the people who dislike animals or think humans are special will just discount this.
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