So the head of a church (priest/preacher/pastor, whomever calls them self father) calls in asking why he's getting charged taxes on apps in his app store. Says he bought two new iPhone 17 pro max's tax free (one for his wife one for him) and his computers should be tax free because "they are for the church". Your apps aren't for the church. Your phone is not for the church, God didn't demand you answer a phone or download an app.. get back to your damn church and pay your sales taxes person who points his phone at a Donald Trump tie and thinks you are the person who isn't the mooch

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[–] 64 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Churches need to lose the blanket tax exempt status. If they want to be tax exempt they should file as a non-profit like all the other tax exempt non-profits. Of course they would never do that because it would mean actually functioning as a non-profit.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (4 children)

    1-Churches pay double tax

    2- Churches go bankrupt

    3- ????

    4- Profit

    Attending church should cost a tax imo.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Do you listen to anything you say?

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    most churches operate as or atleast should operate on a non profit basis, I think that if priest's phone was "work" phone (owned by the church) it would make sense, but you can imagine how much personal stuff the "work" phome would be used for

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Why did they call specifically you? Are you a tax office?

    The whole tax exemption is stupid, but he has a point. If a stupid law is not enforced equally, they should be enraged.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    To keep out specifics, think calling App Store or Play Store and complaining you paid tax when you bought an in app purchase while playing roblox.

    Also I agree, taxation on a digital product is bloody stupid. And I probably was not allowed to say, but told him that sounds like the argument like "right to repair" when he asked why you would be charged if you down "own" the product. Oops. Either way, it's what they asked

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Why is it stupid on dogital products. The point of VAT is that you pay a tax whenever you buy anything: if you buy more thing you pay more to the common purse. Or I'm just too European and got used to paying tax on literally everything.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Some people apparently think faeries give them clean water and fix roads. Maybe that guy just likes driving a bus, and being asked to help pay for the society they live in and benefit from is beneath them.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Tax exempt status for religions applies to federal income tax. Sales tax is per state and state taxes vary between states.

    I'm not a tax account or attorney, but maybe if they keep the receipts they can file there taxes and report it and maybe get the money back.

    Since taxes are filed every year is this the first year they've been a pastor or whatever and doesn't know? If it is their first year and they're complaining about taxes on apps and phones or whatever, then it sounds like theyre kind of trashy to be honest.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Unless it's a very small church it should have a finance admin to manage all business/church expenses. Just need to get the receipts and they can reimburse you from church funds. i have even submitted screen shots.

    I would imagine the overhead for maintaining non profit or tax exempt status takes more than one form in April. So it should be deligated out.

    Trashy is an understatement. They have a phone and a phone plan and they want even more.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Religion is poison

    Religious people are stupid

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I will agree religion is for those who need something to believe in. It's nothing to be ashamed of nor need help or ask for it especially in the society that has been built for us. So I would say. Religion is something that prays on those in need, but we do not provide for as a society.

    If someone believes in what Jesus was, they would simply state helping everyone is right.

    Jesus doesn't believe in borders or crimes, if you do... You aren't a Christian

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    EVERY SINGLE RELIGION IN THE WORLD IS AMERICAN PROTESTANT EVANGELISM GUYS

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (9 children)

    That's a strawman, because you are misrepresenting the original commenter to make them sound less credible.

    The problem with religion is the lack of standards. Grown-ass adults pretend magic is real and there is no limiting the harm they might do as a result.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    strawmanning God to "magic"....

    and it isn't a strawman, you saw one example of an american protestant and said "religion"

    thats a generalization fallacy

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    strawmanning God to "magic"....

    Your only argument for him is special pleading. You insist we cannot comprehend or sense him, yet you pretend to know he's there somehow.

    Sky daddy is a magic wizard who lives in your brain. It's not a straw man. It's an accurate description of your mental illness.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    He came down to earth as the Son of Man. And my argument for God is basic philosopy and logic

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    He came down to earth as the Son of Man.

    To solve problems of his own creation in needlessly violent fashion, I know the story.

    And my argument for God is basic philosopy and logic

    Half of philosophy is as baseless as theology. There is no grounded standards. You're bad at applying logic, too. All you have are fallacies.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    thats a generalization fallacy

    It's not. Religion is primarily about lying to get what you want. Evangelical protestantism is one example, but magical thinking is always harmful.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    All reasonable evidence leads to an omnipotent God

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Literally none. The problem of evil/suffering definitively disproves a god that is both loving and powerful.

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    Our first parents willfully chose to rebel against God, thereby sinning and introducing death and other negative consequences, including suffering, into man’s earthly existence

    ALL OF WHICH IS GOD'S FAULT IF HE IS ALL-POWERFUL. What part of that are you struggling to understand?

    Why are innocent children killed for the mistakes their ancestors made?

    Stop outsourcing your thinking. Shitty apologetics are like AI to you, they hallucinate and tell you what you want to hear and you pretend it is fact.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    "A Church"

    Which one???

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