I l

l I

Guess which one is which?

I don't really care about 1, because it's usually different, and I can't be arsed to change the font.

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[–] 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

People named Al are not necessarily artificially intelligent.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    As a job title: sysadmin

    Loathe.

    Every now and then there crops up the situation where there is no copy/paste from host to host. And when that involves a fucking product key or some shit... Mother fuckers just base 58 that shit.

    What would you rather read and type?

    Product key: "I dont fucking know lots of lllllIIIIIIlllIII etc"

    Or...

    Product key: "CqiDNKttsj1NUubpbVJ2VJL9eMEpRvRFMV3hNPRxtUX7SMox5UQjeEZX3DqqHNAfkSE"

    I rest my case.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Mother fuckers just base 58 that shit.

    I'm assuming that this is the point you're making, but just to clarify:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base32

    The most widely used[citation needed] base32 alphabet is defined in RFC 4648 §6 and the earlier RFC 3548 (2003). The scheme was originally designed in 2000 by John Myers for SASL/GSSAPI.[2] It uses an alphabet of A–Z, followed by 2–7. The digits 0, 1 and 8 are skipped due to their similarity with the letters O, I and B (thus "2" has a decimal value of 26).

    This is generally considered to be a preferable encoding for things like this.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Yeah... No

    I didn’t mean RFC Base32.

    I meant human-safe alphabets.

    Base58 or Crockford Base32 that intentionally remove I, L, O, and 1 (which is distinct from "base 32").

    RFC Base32 still hits the exact problem I’m ranting about.

    To be clear the (vanilla) base32 version of the aforementioned string:

    "I dont fucking know lots of lllllIIIIIIlllIII etc"

    Outputs:

    "JEQGI33OOQQGM5LDNNUW4ZZANNXG65ZANRXXI4ZAN5TCA3DMNRWGYSKJJFEUSSLMNRWESSKJEBSXIYY="

    You can use cyberchef to check for yourself.

    This does not solve the problem.

    I meant what I'd said: base 58.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago*

    In French, il has always looked a bit weird when typed at the beginning of a sentence.

    Il y a un I suivi d'un l.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago

    Not sure what you’re talking about

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Like "O" and "0" in some fonts. The O is slightly fatter.

    In the case of Il, the l is slightly taller. Don't get me started on |.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I hate this so much. There are plenty of aesthetically pleasing ways to avoid it. Windows 8 was particularly bad, my recollection was they literally looked exactly the same there, no difference at all. Luckily I only had to use it for a very brief unpaid internship.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    How about the Greek question mark: ; I still need to find an opportune moment to prank some collegues with that one.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    That is very irritating. Hope you eventually get the chance to use a font that passes the i-l-1 (eye-ell-one) test.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I can’t be arsed to change the font.

    Others just set a DIN 1451 font such as the widely available Bahnschrift and have nothing to complain about.

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    [–] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    i L

    L i

    Capital i is slightly taller than lowercase L.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Other way around friend capital i is still shorter than lowercase L

    Il=iL lI=Li

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That's stupid, the capital letter should be taller than the lowercase; and yet that's how it is in almost every font!

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I agree that the uppercase I should be larger than the lowercase L, but i disagree that that’s how most fonts do it.

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