A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

Could we build a huge glas dome around a city, with adjustable mirrored / polarised surfaces to block out the heat using electricity to alter the properties of the glass?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, we literally cannot safely build a glass dome that big. I do think large blimps with reflective tops could cool a city a little though.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's possible to protect against heatwaves on a city level. Increase the albedo value of the city by doing the following: Incentivize lighter colored roofing and walls, grow leafy trees for shade, cover parking lots with solar roofing (and add EV chargers). Basically do whatever possible to reduce the amount of asphalt and darkish materials in general, being hit by sunshine.

    No it won't save your ass when ambient temperature is 50C, but considering that cities are by their very nature hotter than the ambient temperature out side of the city, these things would help reduce that gap.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trees are good and general greenery too, but then you run into water issues which will be the limiting factor for a lot of stuff going forward as fresh water availability decreases and groundwater runs low.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, hoping we can avoid that, but it's not looking too great. It's a mitigation for today's world, but not for the future unless we also manage to solve the water issue. And just global warming in general.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Across the Mediterranean to the south and east it is even hotter. Wearing shorts and putting on sunblock isn't the best way to deal with the heat, you need to shield yourself and make use of the chimney effect.

    The Bedouin lesson: A scientific study proves robes are the best garment to wear in the desert heat

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    A Bedouin outfit might not fit socially, but a loose summer dress might work just as well.

    So as a counter to the "pants for women" movement, let's start a "summer dresses for everyone" movement.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Shame I'm a fat old guy now. A few decades back I looked great in a Laura Ashley summer dress.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You were a pretty young women back then ?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 90 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    While it is hard to link individual extreme weather events to climate change, heatwaves are becoming more common and more intense due to climate change.

    Not that hard after all.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    From a scientific point of view this is correct, the climate system is too complex to say this particular event is due to climate change. Exceptional events happened in the past too. So you can only draw conclusions from larger statistics. What's solid science is the increasing averages, increasing frequencies of extreme events etc. If it was scientifically informed, that's what this kind of sentence mean.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Scientists do actually make attempts to investigate the contribution of the trends to specific events, it's called extreme event attribution, but it is a very young field and the error bars on everything are still huge. That said,

    The American Meteorological Society stated in 2016 that "the science has now advanced to the point that we can detect the effects of climate change on some events with high confidence". [12]

    But the quote from the article was strictly correct in saying "it's hard".

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We cant link this unusual weather to Climate change.. but its unusual weather thats never been seen before at this frequency or ferocity. Its a mystery~!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    man if only there was a way to link the changing climate to climate change

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    There's a basic assumption that the climate of an area is fixed. We don't really have a good mechanism for adjusting the climate of an area quickly. But eventually you have to say that the weather hasn't been hotter than normal for a decade, this is just the new normal.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    “It’s hard to link changes in climate to climate change”

    Is the author stupid?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, individual extreme events are not "changes in climate". It's easy to say that the rise in heatwaves is caused by climate change but it's much harder to prove that this specific individual heatwave would never have happened were it not for climate change.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The average global temperature has been rising steadily with greenhouse gas emissions, for over 50 years, but sure we’ll just ignore that and say it’s impossible to know.

    We only have the one planet, sometimes you can’t get multiple data sets. But you can certainly study the things that are happening and make predictions based on that.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    No, you're missing the point. We have conclusively "linked changes in climate to climate change" as your comment eloquently put it. That's not really up for debate. But weather systems are extremely complex and extreme events have always occurred. So you can't say that this one specific heatwave is caused only because of this trend.

    When it comes to the urgency of doing something about it, that doesn't matter. It's absolutely sufficient to say "this type of event will occur increasingly often" to establish that it is an existential crisis. You don't have to be able to prove anything at all about this one very hot week in order to say that it is probably the single most important issue for us to tackle (along with the politics that prevent us from doing that).

    But we don't have the science and statistics to generally link individual events to a trend in isolation, and we shouldn't misrepresent the science that way.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Was just talking with my friend from Latvia who said it has been the coldest end of June since forever. Climate is so fucked and its just the beginning.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Have they considered spending 5% of their GDP on weapons? That will surely save humanity.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Most places in Europe have hit normal summer temperatures where I am (about 35). This is ridiculous, though. It is hotter in Spain right now than it is in Phoenix.

    Let that sink in. It is hotter in Barcelona than it is in Death Valley right now.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If anyone is interested, it's X Celsius times 9/5 + 32

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    C * dolly Parton + freezing temp in F

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Maybe because of global warming.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Focus on being part of the solution: Go vegan. Then tell your friends and family to go vegan. Tell them to do the same to their friends and family members.

    Once we've gotten rid of dairy and meat production, we can toy with the CEO's and prisons.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Aren't airplane flights and cars and just waste in general bigger contributors? I'm all for more people going vegan but I remember a carbon footprint analysis saying some of the worst contributors were planes cars waste and then food. Having a kid was the biggest contributor but that's a bit obvious.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yes, but from a societal perspective, theres value in making cuts in a lot of different places.

    Maybe you can do a meatless Monday, and somebody else will go vegan. Tell the people in private jets to stop flying private, but the family that's going to another culture and learning and maybe becoming better has benefits.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Vegetarian is enough to get most of the benefits for environmental reasons. But it's foolish to wait until that happens, it can't wait.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Source on that? I'd reckon dairy and egg industry equally bad as meat industry. Here in northern Europe dairy and meat industry go hand in hand, that is, when a dairy cow stops being productive it gets ground to beef.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Here in northern Europe dairy and meat industry go hand in hand, that is, when a dairy cow stops being productive it gets ground to beef.

    For regions where beef as food is more valued than here (beef's so expensive, few people buy it in Estonia), meat moos are entirely different breeds and fed differently. Milk moos might end up as mince, but probably not a quality steak. You don't need nearly as many moos if you're only producing milk, and then maybe some meat products from cows, compared to when you're raising a bunch specifically to be eaten.

    Chickens raised for meat also don't lay eggs. So if you only eat eggs and not chicken, way fewer chickens are needed. Also, if you're not even willing to go vegetarian, switch out beef and pork for chicken. Per kilogram of meat, chicken is way less carbon intensive (pork is also less intensive than beef). It's still a lot compared to eating potatoes from your own garden of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think this is true for eggs. I've read that the egg-laying chickens are completely detached from those raised for their meat. Perhaps best demonstrated with the recent egg shortages having no impact to poultry prices.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Watch them get to 50C in a few years

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The Mediterranean is 4-6°C warmer than usually at this time of year

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Such an excellent photo, too

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    El Granado, Spain humidity is at 34% at this temp, so it could be much worse.

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