Context: A hacker wearing a pink power ranger costume deleted a racist dating website live at the end of their 39c3 talk this year.

Video of the talk (together with two journalists) here: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-the-echo-chamber#l=eng

(The link is set to English translation, original talk is in German. Deletion happens here: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-the-echo-chamber#l=eng&t=2577)

The pink power ranger running through explosions

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[–] 16 points 10 months ago

No Nazi should get laid, I'm pretty happy with this.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    That would be great but they are all still alive and reachable

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Are they? For me the website has a Cloudflare captcha leading into a 404: https://whitedate.net/

    After the talk it had a rick-roll embed for some time. :D

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    I tried the 1st two that the script deleted (whitechild.net and whitedeal.net) at 11:35am Pacific Time on Jan 3rd and they both came up fine...sadly

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Could be the site owner is in the process of restoring access, the talk (and thus the deletion) happened on 29th of December.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    True. I just saw the script say it was deleting backups so I got happy for a moment

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago

    Well that's probably true. I mean lots of stuff was obviously hacked and deleted, and if you trust the script output in the stream mostly from whitedate. child and deal are later off-shoots it seems, but date had like 6k users, some paying, the main project basically. And it's still offline. And whitedeal shows a 2019 copyright notice. :D

    There was an interactive map of the user profiles hosted by the hacker at https://okstupid.lol/ but it seems to be down right now. And the journalists who participated in the talk (and pointedly left before the script was run) announced there will be more articles released soon.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Geeile aktion

    Minute 43 für all diejenigen die nur kurz zeit für den löschen-part haben

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    me and a few friends talked to a local dude who put his discord in his bio on that website. turns out he was generally a normal and pleasant dude and since that he did a complete 180. Last time he used WhiteDate was 2018. People, especially young people, can change a lot in almost a Decade.

    some of them may not be the monstrous assholes we imagine them to be. (except those guys with nazi tats and showing off swastikas)

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    So they made it so this little bit of containment is now gone and the racists can now disseminate into the good dating apps?? I don't know how this was better for the majority..

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago

    Well the rationale is that they were announcing live to the world (and therefore also the website owner) that "all your base are belong to us". So instead of giving the website owner time to fix their flawed IT security they just deleted all the infected systems at the end of the talk (including some backups and admin accounts).

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    [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That was awesome to watch

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  • [+] -36 points 10 months ago* (18 children)

    white-only dating app

    Oh. Those exist?

    I don't mind.

    I'd never use.

    But if that's what some people are into, they should be free to have that.

    Helps preserve diversity, by having pockets of various "pure breeds", contrast to all those favouring genetic diversity [in their romantic relations] and "hybrid vigour" [in their offspring]. Good to have both.

    Though one has to wonder how over populated with how distasteful of character such most attracts though. Like a friend says, if the colour of your skin is the main thing you've got going on, you've not got much going on. Content of character, innit. Better criteria.

    But who are we to decide for others who they're to be attracted to. There are many other sites and services matching people of one criteria with another. Idealistically (perhaps naively), this (like for like) should be no different. If we deny them this, the worst will still seek it out, and curate it, bolstered by terrorised/terrorising poor-me victim narratives spurring on survival reflexes. As seems to have happened.

    Not sure such actions are a remedy. Likely to have them double down to worse. :/

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Haha Holy shit mate. What in the fuck is a "pure breed". That's such an insane take. Have you ever read a book before? Every human population has genetic diversity. Humans have been on this planet for around 300,000 years.

    I sincerely hope that you are a racist troll, otherwise the education system has let you down.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    fear quotes, dude.

    I sincerely hope that you are a racist troll,

    you hope differently from me.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    What does your first sentence mean in this reply? That the person you're replying to should be scared of quotes?

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, sorry, is the correct term now "scare quotes"? Websearches were stubborn to pull up a definition for "fear quotes". But since you know scare and fear are synonyms... this should be in reach.

    I coulda swore "fear quotes" was the idiom. Maybe I've slipped along the 6th dimension again, and/or some vast retcon's afoot. n_n

    Anyways, I used scare quotes to denote my distaste for that term, mocking those who are into that kind of thing, highlighting the implausibility of it (being "pure").

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Oh. Those exist?

    Past tense

    I don't mind.

    It was a Nazi-hub. You should mind.

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  • [+] -10 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    It was a Nazi-hub. You should mind.

    like I said:

    how over populated with how distasteful of character

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    the worst will still seek it out, and curate it, bolstered by terrorised/terrorising poor-me victim narratives spurring on survival reflexes. As seems to have happened.

    Not sure such actions are a remedy. Likely to have them double down to worse. :/

    if the colour of your skin is the main thing you’ve got going on, you’ve not got much going on

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    if the colour of your skin is the main thing you’ve got going on, you’ve not got much going on

    [which with a little extrapolation is also] meaning they're on a doomed trajectory. Like is so often the case, we see those who are into that, are not the "superior genetics" they claim to be. ... "When you reduce a family tree to a family bush, you just can't hide as much underneath it." -- Minister to Londo, Babylon5.]

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Boggles my mind why that got such a heavy downvote.

    ... Surely you're not all racists, disliking my critique of the content of character of racists.

    Was it because my choice of wording, it confounded my meaning, such that people mistook me as the racist??

    Was it because I outed the folly of prohibition, showing how it does not prevent, making it more malignant? Was that missed too? Or wasn't missed, but disagreed with but without cogent counter-argument?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    No tolerance for Nazis, just bullets.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (6 children)

    How about ex-Nazis who are disgusted at ever having fallen for that indoctrination and ever being so incurious, ignorant, hateful and bigoted, and have now vowed to help end Nazism?

    ... Like many of those who Daryl Davis spoke to now are.

    Just bullets for them too?

    Always a better way.

    Beware those seeking to preach the one true way, especially of violent power over others, as malicious archons.

    More tools in the toolbox than just a hammer helps see people as people, not nails.

    Better ways than opposaming, becoming them, and provoking them with the problem that has them react craving their solution of more Nazism.

    Y'know? Can't get there from here.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Homie, if Nazis don't want bullets they can stop when they want. We didn't chat it out with Nazi Germany, we exterminated.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Didn't watch any of the Daryl Davis vids I linked there, did you?

    How about, we get a few more Daryl Davises around and it wont get to Nazi Germany level again.

    One man, over 200 people de-nazi'fied, many (I presume) even turned any of libertarian, anarchist, or (genuinely) socialist. If it were all [Edit: (or even if not, since pretty much anything's more positive than Nazi)], could even say that's an over 400 people shift to the positive.

    How many Nazis have you stopped being Nazi by killing them? And how many more Nazis did that make, as they rose up in lockstep vowing to end you and anyone like you all the more, in vindictive retribution?

    Or is that the plan? Keep psychologically driving them harder and deeper into Nazism, and more of them, until we do end up in a Nazi Germany level again?

    [Edit: PS: Mattias Desmet's book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism is a superb read on the topic too. Save us it can. Don't let them reach their dire tipping points. Keep speaking up. Shatter their illusion of the one true way.]

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    You're at Nazi Germany already, no ones woken up to it yet. "They thought they were free".

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You’re at Nazi Germany already, no ones woken up to it yet. “They thought they were free”.

    Yeah. Good point. If the shoe fits? I never saw the shoe come off. Continual fascism.

    Nullifies:

    We didn’t chat it out with Nazi Germany, we exterminated.

    So if that did not even work... maybe time to look to other solutions. Maybe high time we each look around and see who's having a lot of success. Oh look, Daryl Davis has had over 200 Nazis and KKK cease being so. :3 Could be worth looking into. ;)

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