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[–] 72 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

At some point it is just bad business to not break the law, the payoffs outweigh the penalties. (For someone that rich)

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    To clarify, Meta had to pay $5.8 billion in a separate lawsuit. This was a lawsuit by Meta shareholders against Mark Zuckerberg and other board members looking for reimbursement of lost shareholder value

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    All fines should be at least as much as was profited from the crime.

    Fines should scale with wealth. If zuckerberg gets a speeding ticket, he should have to pay millions. Bonus: this might encourage cops to go after rich people instead of poor.

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  • [–] 64 points 10 months ago

    All fines should be at least as much as was profited from the crime.

    No no.

    All revenue from the crime should be forfeit, and redistributed to the victims. This is not the penalty for the crime, it's just restitution.

    Then a fine of some amount should be paid, as the actual penalty for the crime.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    The larger problem is this encourages the government to let it happen, the citizens get hurt, and then they get a pay day...

    Corps are essentially paying our government a penny so they can steal a dollar from taxpayers. It's essentially a tax for theft.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    For 8 billion, 190 million is only 2.4%. It's like paying $5 on a $200 ticket, that's 2.5%. Must be awesome to be rich.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    How else could I contact people on my phone besides the FB app? Someone needs to solve that problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's not the only thing that exists, but it is still one of the most reliable social media to find someone on, especially for millenial aged people and older.

    The group and event functionality is still leagues better than anything else I've seen, so neighborhood groups, school groups, and some classroom groups still rely upon it. For neighborhoods especially, there's no way in hell you're going to convince the overehelming majority of the neighborhood into Discord, Slack, Telegram, or especially any sort of self hosted or federated options while also giving up functionality and convenience.

    Let me be clear, Zuckerberg is the strongest argument for the lizard people conspiracy I've ever seen. I am certain thatbFacebook and the horrendous effects it has had on society will be studied for history books for a very long time. It needs to die.

    That said, the issue is only so simple as "why do they keep using it, are they stupid?" if you haven't been paying attention for the last 20 years. They've worked very hard to be just barely useful enough, bring enough separate functionality under one roof, and to be psychologically addicting enough to keep people on it.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The power and influence of billionaire tech companies over the government is enormous. Ofcourse workers don't have any rights in america, none is lobbying for them lol, nobody in Washington is fighting for us

    • A measure you would normally impose on convicted criminals or terrorist leaders is now being used by the U.S. against these three people:
      • former EU Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was responsible for European legislation including on social media;
      • Imran Ahmed, who researches online hate, A US judge has temporarily blocked the detention of British social media campaigner Imran Ahmed, who took legal action against the US government over having his visa removed. Mr Ahmed, a US permanent resident, had warned that being detained and possibly deported would tear him away from his American wife and child. 😳;
      • and Clare Melford, who maps disinformation with her organization.

    All three are now banned from entering the United States because they criticize and restrict American social media platforms such as X and Facebook.

    • Trumps inauguration lmao
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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    All company policies are like that too. Conflit of interest is only bad if you are low income earner of said company.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    laws

    The OP screenshot has literally nothing to do with the law. It's a lawsuit by Facebook shareholders, that was settled.

    And you know, Zuckerberg can't decide on his own to settle this lawsuit. It was settled, meaning both he, and those suing him, agreed to be paid this amount to stop pursuing the suit.

    If you think that amount's too small, you should take it up equally with him and the shareholders doing the suing.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    law suit is part of the legal system which is based on laws.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Would love it if a list of those targeted, or whose accounts were mostly affected by it was released. Hopefully that would seriously fuck him and meta up. But I doubt it.

    In fact, they could use some or all of the $8bn to help get those accounts names releases and inform the holders.

    The way things are going, the $8bn isn't going be used for extra protection on our privacy online, or mental health affected by it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    The take away is that it isn't $8bn. It's only $190M, and even if it had been $8bn it would have only been a slap on the wrist. At $190M it's the equivalent of a fancy meal out for two for Zuck. Not even a slap on the wrist.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Oh wow. I read that way wrong. I read it as though he was paying $190m to avoid a lengthier and more costly court case with a possibly larger fine. Fuck.. How did he get away with only paying that? That's insane.

    Anyway, it's only shareholders that were suing him. For some reason that story hasn't been very big over here, and with Christmas etc. Has got buried. Are any governments taking any action?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Fines as "punishment " for a crime are extra silly to an already silly and oppressive system.

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