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[–] 40 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The rainbow flag is already trans inclusive, the rainbow includes everyone

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But its nice to have the actual colors on it though. I like switching between the 2 because they both look really nice.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    As a matter of color I don't like the abrupt transition from pastel cyan to brown... but it's nice for what it means.

    I like this Julia Feliz diagonal one much better: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Pride_Flag_by_Julia_Feliz_2018.svg

    idk it doesn't seem so jarring to me that way. Maybe because the absence of the bend avoids emphasizing the contact and thus contrast with the pastel cyan.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I believe the triangle having that shape is relevant because of other pride flags with that layout (demisexual at least) but I do find the one you posted a little nicer.

    I don't really understand why progress pride flag with the intersex flag is so rare though either.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    With the current significance of the movement represented by the "LGB Alliance" I don't think it's undue to stress the T.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    LGBTQ+ is 100% covered by the rainbow flag. It is absolutely ridiculous to claim otherwise.

    This is like insisting the American flag is only for Republicans.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Tbf, a lot of that was driven by the wave of transwomen getting mad that lesbians aren't attracted to them. And I never saw any pushback against these posts in the trans community.

    Was there right-wing groups amplifying the reach of these comments? Yes. Should the entire trans community suffer for a small number of assholes among their ranks? Hell no.

    Regardless, the lack of pushback in the trans community and its effects shows the need for groups to self-regulate to some degree. There's assholes in every group, and pretending that there aren't is dangerous.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    huh, sauce? I've never heard of any of that.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The BBC has an article that gives a decent overview: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385

    And Vice isn't doing anyone favors by leaning into the transphobia spin: https://www.vice.com/en/article/whats-wrong-with-the-no-trans-dating-preference-debate/

    A lot of this is also from personal memory. I was plugged into a lot of different communities 2018-2021on all sides of the aisle.

    Thankfully people aren't yelling at lesbians about this anymore, at least not what I've seen. Unfortunately, the damage has already been done.

    Also unfortunately, it seems that people aren't understanding the point of my original comment. And it's that every group has some number of assholes in it, and it's up to the group as a whole to make sure that said assholes don't ruin their reputation.

    This isn't meant to bash transpeople. It's meant as a cautionary tale to avoid letting a minority of assholes set how everyone else sees the group.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My autisitic son insists that pink isn't a real color and has no business being included in any rainbow.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It doesn't have a corresponding wavelength in the spectrum of visible light, but as we perceive it to be there and have a name for it, it doesn't really matter that there's no specific wavelength it corresponds to.

    By that metric abstract things likely love, justice, duty, honour, could be argued to not be real either. Can't touch them or there's no corresponding physical thing in the world to measure them.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    For those that view this particular version of the pride flag redundant: Yes, you are technically correct. The rainbow is supposed to symbolize inclusion.

    However, recent political movements seek to divide and exclude particular groups from the queer community, namely trans people. By choosing a flag that explicitly includes those colors, you are explicitly denouncing that division.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And by choosing to accept the rainbow flag as all inclusive, you also denounce division.

    The idea that we need to specifically call out everyone in need of coverage is asinine, and in itself divisive.

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    Had to reread that headline 3 times to not have my brain turn "presidential castle," into "presidential cattle."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Coolest flag

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Are these gestures empty or meaningful?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If the White House in the US raised the same flag today, would it have meaning?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It absolutely would not. There would need to be something behind it.

    Would it have meaning during a Democratic government though?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Done today, it would acknowledge the valid existence of different sexual and gender identities, which would be an absolutely monumental shift in messaging. Even during Democratic leadership, it would be signal support for rights and equality, instead of diagnosis and demonizing.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This flag fucking sucks. You'd think gay people could design a flag worth a damn but all they've done is slap ugly ass colour conflicts on an already colour saturated base.

    Like take a look at the original lesbian flag before suddenly the community decided corporate branding was ideal theme to mimic.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Did it have to be one of those ugly and redundant derivatives of the perfectly fine rainbow flag of diversity?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The black and brown also represent a completely different movement, it should just be the rainbow flag.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But did you know black people can be gay? Betcha didn't. Glad we added that to the flag to remind you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ok, but did you know that Mongolian people could be gay? Where is there stripe? Did you know Comanche Native Americans couls be gay? Where is theres? Did you know Irish people could be gay? Where is there stripe?

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)