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[–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My electricity rate went up about 60% from 2020 to 2024. I only pay mind to it once every year or two (primarily to double check if a TOU plan would be advantageous).

Just dug into some docs for the 2026 rates and its looking like we're in for another rate hike next year (+22% from 2024, +92% from 2020).

This is getting out of hand.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's (mostly) not because of data centres, but (mostly) because of the increase in the international price of oil and gas due to the war in Ukraine. You can look at other countries and see that their electricity prices have risen over the same period.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Oh good, senators have taken notice, so I can assume a draconian increase coming 

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Just counting, not actually doing anything about it

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    [–] 122 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    AI firms “ask public officials to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) preventing them from sharing information with their constituents...

    How is this even remotely legal? Is this even remotely legal?

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  • [–] 72 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    U.S. Code 5 Section 2302 subsection (b)(13) prohibits public officers from signing NDAs that prohibit them from sharing with the law the breaking of any law.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    The problem here is that who owns a data center isn't a matter of breaking the law. It's only if the data center starts breaking the law, and only then can the lawmaker share that the law is being broken and by whom. It wouldn't give them carte blanche to go out and say "Microsoft owns that land".

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  • [+] -26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Even shithead corporations have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Under our current system at least.

    They would be within their rights to make people sign NDA's regardless of their political position.

    Seems fucking dumb but i think that is where we are at

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    Your right to privacy ends where your actions that impact the public begins.

    Allowing elected officials (allowing, not even MAKING) to sign NDAs with private companies provides cover to do shitty things and get influenced by lobbiests.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Regulate data centers already! Make it mandatory that they be self-powered by renewable energy. Problem solved.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The current administration will never do this but it would be nice

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  • [+] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The fact that industrial and commercial use pays lower rates than people trying to live their lives and heat their home is such bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    It's logical, he who has the power makes others pay for him.

    I mean, you do realize, of course, that due to effects of scale the current situation is putting smaller pressure on industrial consumers than on home consumers.

    But all the talk about demanding to regulate - that's not how you change anything. It's like trying to fix a wall with an A4 sheet of printer paper. Yes, it's something with the correct topology. No, it won't do.

    You need to grow an industry that puts the balancing pressure. That's what we all should be thinking about, something that grows power and feeds people, that is in its interest opposed to these things we don't like.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    That’s how you make American manufacturing even more prohibitively expensive than it already is.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    If there's not enough power to run a manufacturing plant without impacting residents, then the generation needs to be expanded before anything can be built anyway.

    Luckily renewable energy is the cheapest form of new electricity to build. I see no problem with making new manufacturing plants build/pay for their own power generation as well. The cost of installation is probably a tiny fraction of the cost of the actual manufacturing equipment or GPUs if it's an AI data center.

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    [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Shady ways? What Shady ways? They are BLATANTLY doing it.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The average utility bill for Pacific Gas and Electric Co. customers increased by about 67% over the last five years. (source)

    I can vouch. My PG&E bills in 2020 averaged around $70 a month, now they’re regularly over $170. No change in my consumption habits. If I’m mathing correctly, that’s more than a 100% increase for me.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    but, you know, once they get those nuclear reactors up and running, that will all go away...right?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Georgia still has among the lowest per-kWh tariffs in the country, at $0.086/kWh (0.0806 in winter). Plus $14/month service charge and 20% taxes & fees. Compare California at $0.40/kWh.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Senators count the shady ways data centers pass energy costs on to Americans

    ... Well how many have they counted?

    What's the number?

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