Hedge-fund billionaire Bill Ackman plans to bankroll a New York City mayoral campaign, arguing that his affluent associates are poised to flood the election with money in an effort to defeat Democratic Socialist frontrunner Zohran Mamdani.

Ackman said he was “gravely concerned” because he believed the left-wing candidate’s policies would be disastrous, triggering an exodus of the wealthy that would endanger New York’s public services by hollowing out its tax base.

Arguing that his own support of President Trump would automatically disqualify anyone Ackman might put forward, the activist investor said he was making a public appeal: Anyone capable of taking down Mamdani in the Nov. 4 election should step forward and volunteer.

“Importantly, there are hundreds of millions of dollars of capital available to back a competitor to Mamdani that can be put together overnight (believe me, I am in the text strings and the WhatsApp groups) so that a great alternative candidate won’t spend any time,” he wrote.

“So if the right candidate would raise his or her hand tomorrow, the funds will pour in.”

It’s unclear whether New Yorkers would honor such a candidate. The recent intervention by Elon Musk in Wisconsin’s state supreme court election indicated the voting public does not always respond well to billionaires using their money to sway races.

New York mayoral races are notoriously unpredictable due to the city’s chronically low turnout. In 2017, for example, Bill de Blasio won reelection with only 14% of registered voters coming out to support him.

A large influx of New Yorkers heading to the voting booth because they are as concerned as Ackman could easily affect the outcome. If Cuomo can hold on to enough fundraisers, political pundits also point out, it’s possible he could run as an independent like Adams, splitting the left vote and spoiling the race.

Ackman, however, argued all these factors would support the emergence of a centrist candidate looking to position themself on the national stage. It could even be another businessman like Bloomberg, he suggested, although Ackman in an earlier post appeared to indicate he would not seek to run himself.

“For the aspiring politician there is no better way to get name recognition, build relationships with long-term donors, and to showcase oneself,” the hedge fund manager wrote, pitching the campaign like a business deal. “The risk/reward of running for mayor over the next 132 days is extremely compelling as the cost in time and energy is small and the upside is enormous.”

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[–] 320 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Billionaires are against Mamdani, eh? Something tells me he is the right guy for the job then.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I mean, this guy must live in an insane bubble if he doesn’t understand that this will help Mamdami more than if he had endorsed them. I am sure NYC voters will just rally around a guy who, through funding, owns its allegiance to billionaires.

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  • [–] 210 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Billionaires are scared. That's a good sign ..

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What's super ironic to me is that taxing them actually makes them safer because if they pay their fair share people wouldn't want to murder them as much as they do now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Billionaires control the actual weapons of murder, surveillance, torture, etc. They're completely protected regardless of their tax bill. One Luigi isn't going to change that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    One person has already made a massive difference, and the ruling class is scared. What if we had 100 Luigi's? How about a million? How about 100 million? Luigi is inspiring people. Maybe he was the first snowball of an avalanche.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They think they can buy enough guards to keep this from happening to them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They absolutely can not if people finally decide it's time. Guards are good against individuals wanting to fight, not against a mob, or against assassins who really want to kill them. Guards can't stop bullets or bombs, and they can't hold back much more than one person each if those people want through.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    they can’t hold back much more than one person each if those people want through.

    Keyword "IF" those people want through. A lot of people still seem to think the world would crumble without billionaires, but that vibe is visibly shifting which is nice to see.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Gotta remember we're talking about state guards too - cops, military, etc. They stopped an invasion of the capitol by killing one lady. They would've killed many more if necessary... And those were their own fascist protestors. They'll murder progressives/leftists en masse without remorse. Just check out any fascist state (eg. pinochet)...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    And if they paid as much of a percentage as you or me they'd still have more wealth than they could spend in a hundred lifetimes. When a hoarder can't self-regulate, others have to step in.

    That's why taxing the ultra-rich and closing all the loopholes needs to be seen as the compassionate option: it's literally better for everyone. All of society is harmed when the wealth gap further widens...

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  • [–] 174 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So kind of this guy to give Mamdani an incredible basis for an ad campaign.

    Like, for real, does this rich fuck not understanding that the vast majority of the American populace wants to see more blue shells? Honestly, how could it be more clear? All Zohran has to do is something like:

    There’s an old proverb that says you should judge a person by the enemies they’ve made. Well, I’ve made an enemy of the billionaire Bill Ackman, and he’s pledged a blank check to whoever runs against me. But, there’s good news: votes decide elections, not money. I’m not listening to the money. I’m listening to the voters. I’m listening to you. Let’s win this together.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah. Mr. Mangione would be the only person who I think of who could be competitive against Mamdani, on a campaign to "deny, defend, depose" corrupt billionaires and corporations from NYC.

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  • Lmao holy shit, could you imagine if the other Mario brother gets acquitted and then Mamdani gets him to sign on as some sort of high-level city official? Honestly, considering the caliber of human that the current regime is appointing at the national level, we could do a damn sight worse than “some random engineer who got thrust into the spotlight, likely framed, and is now the patron saint of Healthcare as a Human Right”

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ackman said he was “gravely concerned” because he believed the left-wing candidate’s policies would be disastrous, triggering an exodus of the wealthy that would endanger New York’s public services by hollowing out its tax base.

    wtf? Is this really the route they're going to take? I know, pay your fucking share of taxes and then there wouldn't be a "hollowing out."

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    [–] 86 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A billionaire just causally announcing that he can influence, finance and promote an election using his money in order to get what only interests themselves ... rather than in allowing democratic processes elect someone the people actually want and need.

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago

    This is the biggest endorsement Mamdani could get. I hope New Yorkers are paying attention.

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    Billionaires hate him, genocide enablers hate him, fascists hate him, Nazis hate him, government criminals hate him, citizen concerned for fellow citizens love him.

    This Texan Jew is about to send some donations to a Yankee antisemite.
    *references to antisemitism are sarcasm based on comments from people who apparently loooove fascism*

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    the left-wing candidate’s policies would be disastrous, triggering an exodus of the wealthy

    Is that a promise? Look dude I'm already sold on him, you don't need to keep selling him

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That is what they always claim, don't they? You can't tax the rich, they'll leave!!

    Cool.

    Where?

    Where will they leave to? Europe? Good luck, taxes are way higher there (not enough , though) either way, you'll be gone from what made you rich in the first place. You're not going anywhere

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's wild that they billionaires are openly just saying "whoops, we can't be letting the people elect someone good for them, here let's fix that".

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's beautiful. Mamdani and any other socialist will campaign on this hard. These mfkers have gotten really dumb having amassed wealth in an environment where their ancestors had made relative peace with the working class in part by propagandizing that rich people are food for the workers. They seem to think that the status quo where people aren't wholesale anti-rich is a stable equilibrium. I guess they're not reading the latest data.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    We need to fix democracy in this country. We can't keep allowing the poor and brown-skin people to vote in favor to their best interest. At least the GOP, MAGA and Billionaires are swiftly working in a solution for this problem.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So they are ok with spending hundreds of millions of dollars, just not in any way that actually improves the city for the people that live in it?

    It’s not about the money, it’s just misanthropy.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly. The ‘public services’ he wants to save is bribery to avoid paying his fair share. This guy is offering a ‘powerful people’ club membership so he can avoid giving back to a society that enabled his mindblowing fortune. Our system has gotten so used to it he’s totally good with saying it all out loud as if he’s some sort of victim.

    Society’s cancer.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Huh. I wonder why he just doesn't vote for the other person. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Isn't that what poor people do? I was told voting was important... /s

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago

    People of NYC: your vote is far more powerful than this dude throwing his lunch money at the opposition.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Ackman is also a part owner of X, and that platform will also definitely be a big part of an effort to defeat Mamdani.

    Edit: a family member just asked me what I think of Mamdani wanting to put a tax on all hiring, saying he proposed a 35% tax on the salary of all new hires. I googled this, and the only results are on X. The fix is in.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    35% tax on salary is fine with universal healthcare, child care, education, housing, and food. I would give you 50% rates for that.

    People think this is a scare tactic but that is what people want. Instead most pay 22%-24% anf can't afford any of the above things.

    https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/federal-income-tax-brackets

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    IS he promising universal housing and food? Big if true.

    Estonians pay a nearly 50% tax on salaries, we get universal healthcare and education, but not the other stuff you listed. Would definitely be way happier if we got that. Happier than a couple of euros more post-tax salary could make me.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Somebody more left-wing than Mamdani has the chance to do something hilarious

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You joke but he might like that just fine. Two progressive candidates splitting the progressive vote could hand an easier victory to a right winger.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Gotta run a hard right campaign, backed with the money. Either the money works and you win, then expose yourself as a secret leftist, or the money doesn't work and it doesn't matter

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  • What a crook.

    Literally buying elected officials.

    A true enemy of the people

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  • [–] 115 points 1 year ago

    Billionaires should not exist.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I have no clue what Mamdani ideas for NYC are, but if this pile of crap is against him, that signals to me that Mamdani has principles. Bill Ackerman will only support candidates that he can corrupt.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Free daycare, free public transit, and city-owned grocery stores. Sounds like a dream to me.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lots of articles say that Ackman is a real bloodthirty piece of crap, a famously petty crybully, and a supremecist. So I can see why he'd be against Zohran Mamdani.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/crybullyism-bill-ackman-ruling-class/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/bill-ackman-war-harvard-mit-dei-claudine-gay.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzkY3NA_ZkQ

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago

    His daughter was in the social-studies department just like her father, and rowed crew, too, but she had chosen to write her thesis on “The Concept of Reification in Western Marxist Thought,” having come to very different conclusions than her father had about how the world should work. Ackman said it felt as though she “had been indoctrinated” into a cult.

    It's only "indoctrination" when the system of preference isn't capitalism. They'd never admit capitalism breeds its own cult.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Ackman said he was “gravely concerned” because he believed the left-wing candidate’s policies would be disastrous, triggering an exodus of the wealthy that would endanger New York’s public services by hollowing out its tax base.

    Fucking seriously.

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Gimme a hundred million dollars to lose to Mamdani. Sounds like a cushy gig.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He wants to flood the FPTP ballot with progressive and centrist candidates so that those votes are spread so thin, the single conservative candidate is a shoe in with a landslide 3% of the votes.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    I can beat him, money pleaseeeeeee

    Mona Lisa from Parks and Recreation asking her father for money.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Zohran should drop a diss track collab with Kendrick on Spotify. No amount of billionaire money could combat that.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Hollowing out the tax-base? Of what? Billionaires who have turned tax evasion into a sports championship?

    In most places in the world, tax is primarily paid by the working people, not by the rich.

    Which obviously leaves them with to much money that they squander on anti-citizen political campaigns like this. When they have the money for bribery on that level, they have the money to pax taxes like everyone else.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    These guys were the first against the wall, come the revolution.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Anyone who the billionaire hedge fund manager is planning to bankroll is the guy you probably should be voting against.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    So the TV pundits are calling this "class warfare", right?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago*

    As a potential independent candidate Cuomo didn't poll that bad if you don't consider that:

    • the 39% he got are the same as Mamdani, so it would be 50/50 at best
    • as a known quantity, this 39% are probably his ceiling
    • it still didn't factor Schumer effectively endorsing Mamdani on social media

    Political players are in still in flux, but, for the right wing of the Democratic Party, moving against Mamdani is getting riskier and riskier by the day. Not only would they lose the "unity" argument to mobilize the left close to the midterms, but the risk of suffering an humiliating defeat is too great.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago*

    Ackman said he was “gravely concerned” because he believed the left-wing candidate’s policies would be disastrous, triggering an exodus of the wealthy that would endanger New York’s public services by hollowing out its tax base.

    Fake fucking news. Well all know the wealthy don't pay taxes.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Guy kinda sounds like a douchebag

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This won't cause the exodus of the wealthy. It will cause an exodus of the greedy.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    So let me get this straight. Current tax law favors billionaires. He’s concerned that progressive policies will target taxing billionaires forcing a mass exodus of billionaires thereby undercutting the tax base. In other words they’re already not paying taxes but taxing them more will make them leave. Make it make sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    It's sad because it does have to be a global movement. If my country decides to heavily increase taxes on the wealthy - as should be done - this is exactly what happens because they can just easily move to Switzerland or Monaco, or some other tax haven, and laugh us right in the face. It's the genius of capitalism

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Evidence shows that while rich people threaten to leave for tax or financial reasons, they rarely do.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Because generally speaking they aren't that hit. Sweden, for example, removed its wealth and inheritance tax reeal fast once it was introduced in the 90s.

    Norway introduced such measures with their current government and suddenly you have a ton of wealthy Norwegians finding their way to Switzerland. So yes, you do see it happening, and the more you'll increase it the more likely they are to move and take their resources with them. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't gax the rich, of course, but that it needs to be globally coordinated (which it will never be)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    US taxes don’t really work like that. Any money earned in the US is subject to taxes, regardless of where the person lives. The only taxes they would avoid are state taxes.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Of course, this guy is a city mayor, so he's not doing federal taxes.

    It is at least plausible that taxation could cause a move, but if you are rich in NYC moving out would be forfeiting some of the prestige. Who wants to admit that money issues caused them to leave "billionaires row"?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not how it works. If you're American, you pay taxes to the US no matter where you live. If you work overseas you may have to ALSO pay taxes to the country you're living in, unless you expatriate yourself (where the word "expat" comes from) or denounce your US citizenship completely and emigrate. It's a mess.

    Let them cry all they want, because they're not going to leave. And if they do -- good riddance. They contribute nothing to society anyway.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Tl;dr: New Yorkers should elect Zohran Mamdani as their mayor, and should re-elect him as long as he chooses to serve.

    Got it. Locked in. Never been clearer.

    Thanks Bill Ackman!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    These are the ultra privileged who always get their candidates without any debate whatsoever.

    This is the extremely rare exception where they show their faces.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Always follow the money. Why are GOP and billionaires afraid and against this man who pledges to help the poor and struggling working class? Because they obviously have an interest in keeping the poor and struggling in the status quo conditions in which they live.

    If helping the poor didn't hurt their bottom line, they wouldn't pay to keep it from happening.

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