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[–] 156 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, animals were harmed in the making of this film.

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  • [–] 98 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Parvovirus is a puppy owners worst nightmare. It's kind of puppy ebola but super contagious and high mortality rate.

    Typically puppy owners never accept a puppy younger than 8 weeks without their first vaccination. And don't let them go out in places exposed to other unknown dogs until after the second vaccination at 16 weeks. So those early weeks should be spent with other vaccinated puppies to socialise them. And if you are going out, carry them or put them in a cart, or take them places you know no sick dogs have been within a year.

    Yet another reason why raising puppies is so much harder than people think.

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  • Yeah, parvo specifically attacks multiplying cells. It’s not super bad for fully grown dogs, which only multiply cells to maintain a baseline. But for puppies that are actively growing, it basically causes them to fall apart at the seams. Their bone marrow and intestinal lining basically turns to mush, since they’re almost entirely made of multiplying cells.

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  • [–] 175 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A proud Disney tradition.

    discovered that the lemming scene was actually filmed at the Bow River near Canmore, Alberta, and further that the same small group of lemmings was transported to the location, jostled on turntables, and repeatedly shoved off a cliff to imply mass suicide.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    how big was the cliff? did they get hurt or die or was it even more faked?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    the same small group of lemmings was transported to the location, jostled on turntables, and repeatedly shoved off a cliff to imply mass suicide

    That Wikipedia quote implies it wasn't deadly, but checking the end line citations, their reference calls it a "mass animal killing made to look like natural suicide" and makes no mention of using the same group multiple times.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In a movie from 2008, so it wasn't that long ago. You'd think they would have known better by then. Another reminder to boycott Disney.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago

    Hoooooly shit I knew productions with animals were usually darker than they seem but Snow Buddies???? Snow Buddies was built on the back of mass puppy casualty???

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    TranscriptionAn American Humane Certified Safety Representative visited the Snow Buddies set on the first day of filming. Fifteen Golden Retriever puppies were on set and fifteen other were being treated by a local veterinarian, and their illnesses were eventually diagnosed as Giardia and Coccidia. On request from the representative the remaining puppies on set received additional veterinary checks. Twenty-five of the puppies were from an American breeder and five were from a Canadian breeder. It was discovered that the puppies were approximately 8 weeks old, which lead to the belief that the puppies were only 6 weeks old when they were brought by the trainer to the movie set. Per the USDA it was at the time illegal to transport puppies under the age of 8 weeks.

    After the removal of all 30 puppies, 28 older Golden Retriever puppies were brought in to continue filming. All of the 28 older puppies were exposed to parvovirus. Five of the puppies died, and up to six others fell ill after exposure to the virus.

    As a result, the film was not permitted to use the "No animals were harmed..." disclaimer and received an "Unacceptable" marking from the American Humane Association.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If you want to see more animal endangerment check out Milo & Otis.

    They legit threw a cat off a cliff into the ocean for it.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    I used to love that movie until one night as a small child, something just snapped in me and I ran into my mom's room bawling my eyes out. I couldn't explain why at that age, but the movie felt so wrong from that point forward.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh, damn. I just made this same comment before scrolling down further and seeing yours.

    Come to find out the whole thing was filmed in China.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not sure why that's relevant in any way, especially when it was made in Japan.

    Not to mention the fact that there has never been confirmation of animal abuse in the movie, per the snopes article linked under your prior comment.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I checked. It was Japan and not China, but the relevancy is that the US in the 80's wouldn't have been allowed to throw a cat off a cliff or get ones pay bitten by a lobster or tossed in a river. Snopes not confirming anything is irrelevant, since there's actual footage of this stuff happening. Do you have a stress free way of throwing a kitten off of a cliff?

    https://youtu.be/06jP6yqWEXE

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    image of text
    no link to source or actual text
    pointlessly breaking the web & accessibility

    Does OP know about this alternative to images of text called text? 🤦

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [+] -28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No not a link to a wiki but the pervasive weird ass AI favored descriptions of all images in Lemmy. It’s fucking weird

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not for AI, its for accessibility. Alt text is a user-generated description of an image that's been standardized for screen readers. It also helps to have a text description if the image hosting breaks.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    So why is alt text suddenly no longer aria tags and otherwise? Why is accessibility now plastered text across a Lemmy pic? In scenarios that have never been considered accessibility critical?

    I can see the image, and I can see the text… no meta data for screen readers… Why are we now rendering sentences VISUALLY onto images?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I think you're complaining that your lemmy client displays the alt text over the image. Mine does that with videos, which I also find annoying, but not with images. In any case, it is a client issue, so you could ask your developer nicely for an option to disable this behaviour (or look in the settings if it's already possible)

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    If you're shocked by capital murdering puppies, wait until you find out about the animal torture/murder industry, enslaved labor, etc.

    The puppies are just the tip of the meatberg.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The meat eaters are not going to be happy with this comment. :^)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You never heard the joke before? "How do you know if someone is vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you"

    But in all seriousness now.. every group out there, no matter how moral or good or whatever will always have extremists and people like this that will give the group a bad name. Unfortunately, veganism has a lot of these. Which is a shame, because we really need more vegans.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    And it's also evolutionary fortification that we make a choice that works out well for us through real metrics or confirmation bias and we broadcast it to everyone else.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hey, I think killing animals is bad

    Ugh, extremist much?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, because calling everyone "meateaters" and pretending they're all equal and that killing puppies to make make a movie and eating chicken is the same thing. Yeah, that's a perfectly normal and healthy way to spread the message.

    People would be a lot more open to discussion and change if you weren't so confrontational. The fact that you felt the need to disagree with someone that said the world needs more vegans proves my point, I'm pretty sure, but whatever, you do you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm sorry, but this is giving me massive "of course I support feminism, but goes too far/is too hysteric" vibes. You can suggest better communication strategies, of course (or better yet, use them yourself), if you think you know better how to convince people to stop killing animals. But only criticizing vegans for their tone, and then finishing with "I think the world needs more vegans" does not make you sound supportive at all.

    I'm gonna ask the dreaded question then: If you think the world needs more vegans, are you vegan? And if not, would you be if vegans were less rude to you?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Heavily reduced meat and animal product consumption but not yet vegan, no. It requires more research and time and energy than I have right now to fully switch. (And a few more good recipes, because many are quite meh, for some reason) But I'll get there eventually.

    And vegans haven't been rude to me, thanks for your concern. It's not about that, even. But all those jokes that are floating around haven't been created by the meat industry. It's not some conspiracy. You know the phrase "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"? That's all I'm saying.. and it's not even about veganism.. it's about life in general. People are way too angry, especially online. Too quick to judgement and insults. They say the same thing about leftists.. that they're too busy fighting amongst themselves rather than focusing on what matters.

    Disagreed with plenty of people in real life, but it's never been like this. Never heard the phrase "meat eater" in real life, even tho I've talked with plenty of vegans. Same for "tankie" and a bunch of others.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    Go watch Milo and Otis again. Holy shit. They through a fucking kitten off a cliff.

    After doing some wtf research, the thing was filmed in China. Those poor kittens and puppies.

    *Threw

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/animals-abused-milo-and-otis/

    That was a rumor, and has never been verified despite decades of discussion and many attempts to prove or disprove it. Also, it was filmed in Japan, not China.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Snopes can leave things unsecured all they want, but the footage of what happened to the cats and dogs is proof. There wasn't any CGI in 1986 and the abusive and stressful situations they did to them was obviously real. But yes, it was Japan instead of China.

    https://youtu.be/06jP6yqWEXE

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know anything about your overall claim and don't know what the movie is that you're talking about but CGI absolutely did exist in 1986. The original Tron released 4 years prior, and green screens/similar had been around for decades.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    Lol. Dude. If you think green screens and CGI weren't super easy to recognize back in the 80's, you need to go watch some old movies that used it.

    Also, yeah, Tron released 2 years earlier and had some CGI. There was even CGI way before Tron in movies. When I say there was no CGI, I'm saying there was no CGI that could fool even a 6 year old into thinking an animal was jumping off of a cliff.

    As for the green screen thing.... Bless your little soul.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have never heard of this movie or the whole franchise (did some searching) before. It's not even something I have seen anything about and wasn't interested, I've literally never seen or heard anything about any of this. But I'm not surprised, nothing as big as Disney exists without many skeletons in the closet. Haven't given them any money since I was a teenager, and that won't ever change.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    tldr: they were too young, a bunch got parvovirus and didn't make it

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    Addendum:

    They were too young and a bunch were sick, they were forced to get older puppies, who then also got sick.

    They fucked up, got told they fucked up, then fucked up again.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    There are 23 movies in the Air Bud cinematic universe. Everyone always talks about the first Air Bud. The basketball one. The dog does a trick and boops the basketball into the hoop. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. If I'm on the losing team to that, I can applaud that. That's fine, whatever, I'd hurt my nose doing that. Cool. The rest of the team played well, too.

    Now imagine being a kid on a sports team six years later. You arrive to your beach volleyball court and see you're playing against a dog. You might think, woah, the dog is just gonna boop the ball with his nose, right? Cool fucking trick, he's old as shit and has no new ones. Wrong. In Air Bud: Spikes Back, the fifth Air Bud movie, the eponymous Air Bud jumps up to the net and spikes a ball down on the opposing team. If I'm on the losing team to that, I fucking quit volleyball forever. There's no going back. Your dad doesn't ask how the game was, he saw the dog spike that shit on you on ESPN. What were you supposed to do? My fucking bad, our libero is a piece of shit who can't dig it up from a FUCKING DOG??? Where the FUCK is our middle blocker??? Which one of you assholes let's the dog go unmarked after that??? Slam the fucking ball into him, holy shit! No wonder we lost, they were too busy laughing their asses off while we floundered to get the ball over the net! Holy fucking shit, Andre, if you set the ball up so the FUCKING DOG GETS A CHANCE TO BLOCK ME WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU THE SETTER?!? No way, there is NO WAY anyone plays volleyball on that team again. Half that team kills themselves from the ridicule after that. The other half moves across the country and changes their names and faces. That dog ruins their lives. All to win a volleyball game.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, I could have gone my whole life not knowing this. :(

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    hahah holy fuck, man. was not expecting to see that when I first opened up Lemmy

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Even though animals were harmed in the film, it was still released?

    Then what's the point of the protections?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    George Carling.... Tippy the dog.

    "Sometimes, you can get a dog that looks exactly like the dog you used to have. Right? You shop around a little bit, and you find a dog identical to your former dog. And that's real handy cause you don't have to change the pictures on your mirror or anything. Right? You just bring the dead one into the pet shop. Throw him up on the counter and say, "Give me another one of them. That was real good." And they'll give you a carbon copy of your ex-goddam dog. Now my favorite dog that I ever had in my whole lifetime was Tippy."

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can’t even imagine the kind of person you have to be to actually let this movie get published about a bunch of cute little puppy dogs if you had the power to stop it and you knew what happened.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    This is the same company that, 60 years ago, built a turntable to throw lemmings off the edge of a cliff for a "nature documentary" since they weren't jumping over on their own.

    Lemmings do not actually commit suicide in nature...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Honestly for disney that's spca worthy

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    All for capitalism....

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