God I'm happy to not be the only one. I read the thing the times trying to figure out where it was closing it

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Do we have a web browser that uses Servo engine yet?

Recently I go fucking annoyed by Mozilla that I rage-contributed (monthly payment) to Servo.

Mozilla is such a shit show.

I daily driver QuteBrowser and have for awhile now. I like it. does everything I need it to do and the vim style navigation is awesome.

Sure there are some quirks that can be solved via userscripts and trust me I have a lot written for it but everything that requires an extension in firefox or chrome i have working on Qutebrowser. I don't get adds with youtube in fact dare I saw I have it set up better than what you could get on Firefox or Chrome, I have my password management via bitwarden, it all just works. And the dev, The Compiler, is great and is always on top of issues that come up.

there's yet to be any site i've come across that just doesn't work.

LibreWolf has been quite good to me. I just allow cookies on my most used websites and it's been perfectly fine to use.

It renders... so what is missing for you to use it?

start putting up the money to make their support no longer required

There's no way individual donations from ordinary people could match Google's. They're also likely to be less reliable.

Mozilla doesn't even ask for donations from users a whole lot, and the money they receive mostly doesn't go into development of the browser:

These funds directly support advocacy campaigns (i.e. asking big tech companies to protect your privacy), research and publications like the *Privacy Not Included buyer's guide and Internet Health Report, and covers a portion of our annual MozFest gathering.

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/help/#frequently-asked-questions

Voting with your wallet doesn’t work when you are the product. They don’t care about your money when google’s will dwarf any amount individuals could hope to raise, even collectively. Nothing prevents them from just taking both your money and google’s and changing absolutely nothing.

Their support isn't required though, it's desired.

Mozilla have millions of $, they are actively investing in various money making schemes (sorry, financial investment vehicles) well outwith the original scope of Mozilla.

They take the money because they want the money, they could refuse it any time they want. But they won't, because they don't want to. They're not a poor FOSS project with an independent developer that needs donations to survive, stop treating them like they are.

Mozilla has created some brilliant software, but they're leaving their original mission behind, burning goodwill with many people around the world, and setting themselves up to be shunned by the open source community the second a viable alternative pops up.

Not really conductive as long as most funds are siphoned by the C-suite ranks. Get rid of the C-fat first, maybe even turn Mozilla into a co-op, then have the People fund it.

I thought Mozilla lost the google funding in the monopoly ruling?

What's the amount they get donated or funded? So we know how much to raise yearly.

It's too late to give (life) support. Web browsers are a dying ecosystem as it's too complex to create competition. Why not abandon them and instead support software that does a seperatable part of what modern browsers do?

I've been on librewolf for years, and as long as I'm running the FlatPak version, all Firefox extensions work. Having said that, you do have a few options to sync. One is using your Firefox account (I don't suggest you do because of Mozilla's BS over the past year or so, but you would be sharing way less stuff this way). In my case, the only thing I want synced in browsers is the bookmarks, so I use floccus extension in every browser, floccus app in android, and host them all in a self-hosted linkwarden instance. I hope that helps.

But also not open source.

The rot has set in. There’s no getting it out, now.

The money from Google was surely what killed their browser. I'm not saying there was a behind the scenes deal. They just got lazy and spent Google's money in stupid ways instead of improving their product so that they could gain a real userbase.

Imagine if they spent that money towards just the browser (not possible, but imagine anyways), we could be in a very different place where Chrome doesn't have 99% (or whatever it is) market share.

Firefox is a good browser, but where could they have been today if it was prioritised over paying the CEO millions for nothing? They have recently been sorta catching up, i've seen a lot of updates that actually include features I use, but I think it's too late.

Time for one of the new built from the ground up browsers to shine when complete. I still stand by Firefox and recommend it, but as soon as their is an open competitor that is production ready, I'm outta here.

They have undoubtly done amazing things for the web, but their idiocy is astounding sometimes and I don't wanna stay on a sinking ship. I'd rather use a new browser that helps keep the web secure, safe a pleasant for us all without annoyances or dumb beurocracy.

Well Anthropic chose to settle their piracy lawsuit out of court which probably indicates that they thought there was a reasonable chance they could have lost the case. No legally binding precedents set yet though afaik.

Copyright isn't awesome, it is useful. The whole basis of open source is built on the concept of copyright (copyleft), so alignment with copyright isn't "sudden", it is fundamental.

Why is this being downvoted so heavily?

Copyright can be used to in a good way. Unfortunately, its mostly used by big corporations as a battering ram to extract as much money as possible from smaller businesses and even just individuals