Everyday folks are rising up to resist immigration raids with whistles, car chases, and noisy protests. Revolution is in the air.

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[–] 98 points 11 months ago
[–] 26 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

ICE, DHS, and Border Patrol coming in and invading our blue cities, alongside the National Guard sent from red states to blue states sounds like what exactly? A civil war.

But only one side it participating, that being the red state invaders. Unless there were at least one murked ICE agent by an organized attack, or a blue state pulled an offensive maneuver, there's no revolution here.

This article states it's witnessing revolution, when this country hasn't even organized a GENERAL STRIKE by now. Should've happened before Chuck Schumer cucked us out during the government shutdown.

We have some wins to be projected thanks to elections, but an article titled like this is just particularly useless hopium, and gets in the way of the real deal if there are no more free and fair elections.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It seems more like a proxy civil war. DHS and Ice are invading blue cities and states to terrorize those residents, but plenty of blue states have passed state laws to counter the shit happening in other red states and at the federal level. (New York passed "abortion shield" laws, to protect patients and providers offering or receiving abortion care in NY from legal repercussions (civil or criminal) initiated by states with abortion bans.) We have sanctuary cities. We have blue cities/states instructing their police not to assist ICE/DHS. People within those cities and states are also fighting back with neighborhood watches and protecting each other from ICE/DSS. To say that blue states/cities aren't fighting back is disingenuous.

    The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots. It will come to violence, I don't see this ending any other way. The people that are openly opposing trump and his bullshit are trying to do it via civil disobedience, instead of violence. Violence just gives the right fuel to call the left terrorists and demonize the movement, along with an excuse to institute martial law. Civil disobedience gives the movement more credit. Black people during the civil rights movement and MLK recognized this. They knew violence would demonize, and therefore jeopardize what they were trying to accomplish.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Yes civil disobedience is out on display, and it's phenomenal, but it's not enough; like MLK's movement, there has to be enough organizing for at least a strike, a general strike. We can't pretend that, using your example, Hochul's push for laws protecting abortion rights in NY are enough with her corporate Democrat sentiments capitulating to the right; she's going to undermine some of Mamdani's more ambitious plans for NYC, and I don't anticipate maximum resistance from her when defending her constituents against fascists. And sanctuary cities are the ones under attack my friend, they've been "sanctuary cities" for a long time. That's why they're going after them.

    Bipartisanship is dead, and we need fighters, as peacefully as it can possibly be done. Right now until further notice with Mamdani's inauguration, so far the NYPD has been cooperative with ICE as well; we can't count on our leaders to apply pressure for us right now, and we have to use our leverage.

    A more honorable response to Trump and ICE has been Illinois, with Gov. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson. They have the right messaging, they have the right constituents defending their communities in Chicago, and the Chicago PD is pissed enough at ICE to not cooperate (with no arrests of ICE agents, mind you), but it has not been enough to kill the momentum. We NEED to use our leverage.

    On a side note at least, it would appear from the outside that military does not hold as much confidence in their commander and chief as Trump hoped. A blanket use of marshal law doesn't appear possible with the White House's ambitions of foreign policy. It truly is spectacular implosion to be witnessing.

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    ... with the same unlubed dildo of consequences that's waiting on Putin, Trump, and a bunch of Epstein accomplices.

    Ratas

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    It took me a moment to remember that ratas is Spanish for rats so I was wondering what Estonian politician Jüri Ratas has anything to do with this, given that he's more of a bag of hot air than a dictator.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Unless ICE is being inconvenienced in any meaningful way, there's no "revolution" happening. I've got some great ideas on how to stop them permanently, but it would likely violate the forums posting rules.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    American revolution? They should be talking about a civil war.

    We need another underground railroad at this point.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Revolution is in the air.

    Sure, and any day now I'm going to lay a giant golden egg and fly away on my skydragon to never-never-land where I'll live with elves.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In today's western democracies leader cults and charismatic authoritarianism tends to cluster on the right, not the left, despite what the "both sides!" people want to believe.

    Donald Trump is the obvious endpoint of pseudopopulist anti-intellectual conservatism. Thankfully the US got there first, so we can all see where the conservatives around the world are headed.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I guess if you believe that the American war for Independence was a "people's revolution", then anything makes sense.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    The American Revolution happened because Americans didn't want to repay Britain for its help in the French and Indian War.

    We've been dying for tax cuts for our rulers ever since the country's inception.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    These are the titles I like to see!

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Revolution seems to ne conflated with an angry tweet while in line at the drive thru at Burger King.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (11 children)

    Peace frog doesn’t work. Now what? Peace pigeon? When can we start shooting?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    You can start now if you want. It's not going to end well for you until there's a critical mass doing it with you.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    I guess if everyone waits for critical mass…

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