Please help keeping these monsters of our streets. It will save lives.

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[–] 64 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It'd be nice to get them out of America, too.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    And Canada. They're everywhere here. Idiots only using them to commute to work every day.

    "But I need it" Fuck off.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, please.

    I'm a big bearded white guy and look like I should drive a stupid truck, or at least I would look that way with some shades and a baseball cap. Where I live is pretty white, surrounded by rural areas, so the trucks are everyyywhere. I doubt I need to convince anybody on here that these vehicles are bad, but I have a couple of observations from my perspective here in real america(/s).

    I have a couple of friends who are those rare truck owners due to legitimate need because they are literal farmers, in addition to their day jobs (this is the USA, after all). Not only are their pastures on steep hillsides, but they only have huge animals like horses and cattle so that comes with pulling trailers and hauling bales of hay, etc. The trucks LOOK like they are farm trucks, their back seat areas in the cabs are dedicated to dogs, and the drivers are... petite women. 🤣 They are super nice and generous too, so I get to do the "have a friend with a truck" thing.

    But, since I live close to a Home Depot, I don't borrow one of the trucks unless I am buying 12+ foot (3.66+ meter) lumber or an appliance.

    Every time I'm at Home Depot in old clothes with cuts on my arms and legs, loading standard 8' (2.44m) lumber into my decade-old economy sedan, I'm surrounded by people who look like me demographically but are dressed much more cleanly and getting into shiny clean late model luxury SUVs or the hulking pickup trucks that cost even more.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Why are you in a European anti-US consumerism community trying to convince Europeans that utes (for Americans here: utility trucks) should have some social tolerance? Like, what is your goal here? Why do you even care? Why are you bothering with the effort at all?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    It'd be nice to actually have truly small trucks like the S10/S15 from '04 and earlier come back into vogue, let alone more normal cars like hatchbacks and sedans and such, and hell, more vans for light commercial work if desired too.

    Even minivans can legitimately work pretty well for moving a lot of stuff around if you either remove the seats or fold them into the floor depending on how that's set up, really, say what you will about minivans, but they can hold a lot of stuff with the seats removed/folded into the floor, if you own a minivan and, say, you're renovating your home or whatever, for example, you could fit all the materials for that with the second and third-row seats removed/folded into the floor into maybe a couple trips to your preferred hardware store and be good to go with how much stuff that class of vehicle can carry, and hold it in a way that's easily accessed by a low load floor and sliding doors on one or both sides of the van, just like their full-sized counterparts only smaller and with better fuel economy.

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  • [+] 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The more insane part is that Bezos and that mfer working McDonald's gets the same fine. It might as well be jail time for one, and a verbal warning for the other.

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  • [–] 92 points 11 months ago (33 children)

    Besides the obvious fact these trucks are too huge for European roads and parking spaces, America vehicles are simply hot garbage.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (31 children)

    The Japanese and Korean vehicles for the American market aren't any better to be fair.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think so. Their comment seems over-generalized. Sure, most modern cars are too "sporty" now which translates to being more uncomfortable in my experience. But that doesn't mean I'd lump Japanese cars in the same quality category as American cars.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (23 children)

    Toyota, particularly, hasn’t kept up with advances in infotainment technology. Their infotainment is literally no better than it was in 08. Honda infotainment is slightly better, but still stuck with terribly low resolution, and only a 9”ish screen. Pretty much any other company will be a better buy than those 2 right now. Remember, the infotainment in every new car is the entire heart of the car, so you’re forced to live with it; you can’t just swap out infotainment screens for something better like you used to be able to do.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Silly me, thinking that the engine would be the heart of a car.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    9 inch infotainment is plenty. The purpose of a car is to travel, not watch SpongeBob Squarepants.

    Infotainment replacements are out there, but often lack support for some specific vehicle options. If the connections were more standardized like the old radios it would certainly be nice.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Do people actually want infotainment screens?

    The only thing I can think of wanting a screen for is a backup camera. I much prefer buttons when possible. I thought infotainment screens were just a way for manufacturers to save money on buttons. Why would you want one? Is there something I'm missing?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    How do you like to get to new places? Turn by turn audio? That mixed with on-screen directions?

    If you like on screen, what is the ideal screen size?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    @brbposting @Taldan Reading a paper map and looking up directions before you drive and then remembering them are critical skills that should be on driving tests.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Makes me feel better doing that!

    Still have to check traffic even for short trips since I refuse to waste half an hour in a jam when looking for green/red roads would’ve taken seconds :) then appreciate traffic notifications along the way

    Admittedly don’t do it with paper but have enjoyed learning roads - even played a game kinda, work to home (San Francisco) where I turned right on red for each red I got, forcing me to explore new places (no GPS)

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    The bigger the screen for me, the safer it is to gaze over at directions. I wouldn’t drive without directions telling me which way is fastest. No way can a human predict traffic better than computers.

    The cameras might not be “required” to drive, but they do increase precision, which in turn is safer overall.

    Also, the last thing I wanna do is know my area super well, then it takes the excitement out of driving around; the engagement is helpful to keep me from being distracted.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If cars were designed so you actually had visibility, you wouldn't Need 500 cameras just to reverse.

    This is why 2000s was peak. You had most creature comforts, and tech wasn't shoved in our faces, and you could actually see out of your car.

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  • [+] 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    What options are there that don't have infotainment garbage without buying something that's 10 years old?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I will not buy a car without a 15” screen. I just cannot read directions as fast on any smaller screen. The bigger the information on the screen, the faster I can read it, and the less precision I need with my gaze.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Maps/navigation is the one feature that infotainment systems have that is a step up and worth a small amount of cost.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    It will be instantly outdated.

    The phone you use is going to be a far better method of navigation. Cars need a dumb screen that connects to your phone and displays the map, problem solved. Although id take all screens out of cars but kids today need a screen or they freak out I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    I hate infotainment and technology in cars so, go Toyota!

    Give me efi and maybe abs (most of my cars dont have abs anyway)

    Tech Junk makes all cars more expensive and prone to failure and impossible to repair, and further pushes us to technofacist dystopia where your every move is recorded and your car can be controlled remotely (Tesla can do this already).

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Sorry, I meant that they're all too huge for European roads. Quality wise it varies considerably, Chevy group has kind of stepped it up and honda/the Koreans have slipped (though miles better than Stellantis group with Dodge and jeep still).

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    The only thing more stupid than these tacky cars are the people sitting in them.

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    Indeed, and they have no performance, even though they pretend to be high-class.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    Seems like links to the video itself are missing in the post, here they are:

    https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-keep-these-stupid-american-trucks / https://youtu.be/--832LV9a3I

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    New f150s dwarf old f250s in size despite not being able to haul as much. I read somewhere that American farmers have a strong preference for pickups from the 90s because new trucks are worse at doing truck stuff in every way.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    If only there was a youtube video that could summarize the issue for us.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Help how? I would love nothing more if I never had to see one again but I can hardly prohibit others from having one

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Stop being selfish and think of the shareholders! Buy a ridiculously oversized piece of crap truck to impress your neighbors. How else do you show how manly you are?!

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Wait until the CyberTruck arrives

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  • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    It won't because its exterior has too many sharp edges to be street legal. It will never be allowed in europe, not without a whole bunch of laws beeing changed.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    You’re very fortunate as it’s a hideous abomination

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Every time I see one turning or handling a slope it looks like the handling is traaaaaaash.

    I will say that the wheels and tires actually look cool. On a different vehicle those could be very stylish for a city truck someone in Ft Worth or Atlanta might have.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I have a oddly hard time spotting Cybertrucks in the wild, I think it's my brain trying to spare me the psychic damage of seeing such an ugly vehicle.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    There should be a system in place where, while not banned outright, private ownership of these trucks is dissuaded and favor is granted to commercial contractors. I don't know how such a system would be implemented but it would ensure that these behemoths stay off city streets. The obvious solution is to design streets that prioritize pedestrians and cyclists first, small cars second and commercial vehicles third but only if they're actively used in commercial labor.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    The fucked-up thing is these hulking beasts are a recent construct, we used to have genuinely small trucks here once.

    A stock S10 from the '80s, '90s, or early '00s is going to be significantly smaller than a stock Colorado you can pick up new off the lot right now, for example, and that S10 would've been more than good enough for things like basic junk runs to the scrapyard or for hardware store runs for things like bags of sand or whatever.

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    Some wealthy idiots in Europe will buy a handful of US pick-up trucks. The normal European would not waste their money on the insurance, emission taxes, fuel cost, and maintenance for that junk. Good luck parking it too. I always laughed when I saw a RAM on the Autobahn with the "AF" plates. Aral (Petrol Stations) were delighted when they had to fill it up off base.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Is this a re upload?? I'm sure already saw that video some time ago

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Please let us yanks know how to do the same after you figure this out.

    • Your friends across the pond
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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Fuck all trucks.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I wish we had better EV towing vehicles in the US… my lightning is just too fucking big, but it’s the only thing that tows a horse trailer that isn’t a Model X (100K$ starting, 40K$ more than I paid for the Lightning) or a Model Y (barely useable; custom built “euro” trailer required to stay within towing capacity).

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    They are so terrible

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Once they run over a few toddlers and cause severe injury in collisions, the insurance premiums will go sky high. And maybe governments will impose greater safety requirements.

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