It'd be nice to get them out of America, too.
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The more insane part is that Bezos and that mfer working McDonald's gets the same fine. It might as well be jail time for one, and a verbal warning for the other.
This is actually a great idea. IV never considered this. Oh man, EVs would get cooked on fines
Besides the obvious fact these trucks are too huge for European roads and parking spaces, America vehicles are simply hot garbage.
The Japanese and Korean vehicles for the American market aren't any better to be fair.
I don't think so. Their comment seems over-generalized. Sure, most modern cars are too "sporty" now which translates to being more uncomfortable in my experience. But that doesn't mean I'd lump Japanese cars in the same quality category as American cars.
I too would like to know. I'm rocking a 2012 Scion with a Toyota engine with 300,000 miles on it...
Toyota, particularly, hasn’t kept up with advances in infotainment technology. Their infotainment is literally no better than it was in 08. Honda infotainment is slightly better, but still stuck with terribly low resolution, and only a 9”ish screen. Pretty much any other company will be a better buy than those 2 right now. Remember, the infotainment in every new car is the entire heart of the car, so you’re forced to live with it; you can’t just swap out infotainment screens for something better like you used to be able to do.
Silly me, thinking that the engine would be the heart of a car.
9 inch infotainment is plenty. The purpose of a car is to travel, not watch SpongeBob Squarepants.
Infotainment replacements are out there, but often lack support for some specific vehicle options. If the connections were more standardized like the old radios it would certainly be nice.
Do people actually want infotainment screens?
The only thing I can think of wanting a screen for is a backup camera. I much prefer buttons when possible. I thought infotainment screens were just a way for manufacturers to save money on buttons. Why would you want one? Is there something I'm missing?
How do you like to get to new places? Turn by turn audio? That mixed with on-screen directions?
If you like on screen, what is the ideal screen size?
12” widescreen is basically my minimum; >15” is ideal. I’d put a 24” in my car if I could.
@brbposting @Taldan Reading a paper map and looking up directions before you drive and then remembering them are critical skills that should be on driving tests.
Makes me feel better doing that!
Still have to check traffic even for short trips since I refuse to waste half an hour in a jam when looking for green/red roads would’ve taken seconds :) then appreciate traffic notifications along the way
Admittedly don’t do it with paper but have enjoyed learning roads - even played a game kinda, work to home (San Francisco) where I turned right on red for each red I got, forcing me to explore new places (no GPS)
Agreed.
Having a maps app that shows directions and current position is pretty handy in new areas, especially if there is construction or heavy traffic to avoid.
The bigger the screen for me, the safer it is to gaze over at directions. I wouldn’t drive without directions telling me which way is fastest. No way can a human predict traffic better than computers.
The cameras might not be “required” to drive, but they do increase precision, which in turn is safer overall.
Also, the last thing I wanna do is know my area super well, then it takes the excitement out of driving around; the engagement is helpful to keep me from being distracted.
If cars were designed so you actually had visibility, you wouldn't Need 500 cameras just to reverse.
This is why 2000s was peak. You had most creature comforts, and tech wasn't shoved in our faces, and you could actually see out of your car.
What options are there that don't have infotainment garbage without buying something that's 10 years old?
Maps/navigation is the one feature that infotainment systems have that is a step up and worth a small amount of cost.
It will be instantly outdated.
The phone you use is going to be a far better method of navigation. Cars need a dumb screen that connects to your phone and displays the map, problem solved. Although id take all screens out of cars but kids today need a screen or they freak out I guess.
I hate infotainment and technology in cars so, go Toyota!
Give me efi and maybe abs (most of my cars dont have abs anyway)
Tech Junk makes all cars more expensive and prone to failure and impossible to repair, and further pushes us to technofacist dystopia where your every move is recorded and your car can be controlled remotely (Tesla can do this already).
No. They're much more reliable and generally cheaper even with the tariffs
Sorry, I meant that they're all too huge for European roads. Quality wise it varies considerably, Chevy group has kind of stepped it up and honda/the Koreans have slipped (though miles better than Stellantis group with Dodge and jeep still).
Only some places in Europe have roads too small to accomodate them, but regardless, these vehicles are stupid everywhere
The only thing more stupid than these tacky cars are the people sitting in them.
They are plus sized.
Indeed, and they have no performance, even though they pretend to be high-class.
You couldn't have linked the bloody video?
Seems like links to the video itself are missing in the post, here they are:
https://nebula.tv/videos/notjustbikes-keep-these-stupid-american-trucks / https://youtu.be/--832LV9a3I
New f150s dwarf old f250s in size despite not being able to haul as much. I read somewhere that American farmers have a strong preference for pickups from the 90s because new trucks are worse at doing truck stuff in every way.
Help how? I would love nothing more if I never had to see one again but I can hardly prohibit others from having one
Below the video you`ll find links to organisation competing this legislation. You can join those and support them.
If EU citizen, you can write to your member of the EU-parliament. Theres a pre-fabricated letter you can send in. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search/advanced
He explains it in the conclusion of the video.
you can make sure that you treat the owners like the selfish assholes they are, though
might influence some of them, at the least it's definitely better than nothing
Lobby against them, keyscrape, put anti- tinydickcar posters up, etc.
Stop being selfish and think of the shareholders! Buy a ridiculously oversized piece of crap truck to impress your neighbors. How else do you show how manly you are?!
Wait until the CyberTruck arrives
It won't because its exterior has too many sharp edges to be street legal. It will never be allowed in europe, not without a whole bunch of laws beeing changed.
You’re very fortunate as it’s a hideous abomination
Every time I see one turning or handling a slope it looks like the handling is traaaaaaash.
I will say that the wheels and tires actually look cool. On a different vehicle those could be very stylish for a city truck someone in Ft Worth or Atlanta might have.
I have a oddly hard time spotting Cybertrucks in the wild, I think it's my brain trying to spare me the psychic damage of seeing such an ugly vehicle.
I suppose they could stick a bunch of goofy bumpers on it like the US compliant Countach. It might be the only way to make them uglier.
There should be a system in place where, while not banned outright, private ownership of these trucks is dissuaded and favor is granted to commercial contractors. I don't know how such a system would be implemented but it would ensure that these behemoths stay off city streets. The obvious solution is to design streets that prioritize pedestrians and cyclists first, small cars second and commercial vehicles third but only if they're actively used in commercial labor.
Make it really inconvenient to own one. Require a CDL and subject them to the same restrictions as commercial vehicles.
You want one? Ok, but it's going to be a pain in the ass.
Nah, commercial vehicles shouldn't be given greater freedom to kill bystanders. Limit 'em to 45kph and have to display a yellow flashing knob beacon.
The fucked-up thing is these hulking beasts are a recent construct, we used to have genuinely small trucks here once.
A stock S10 from the '80s, '90s, or early '00s is going to be significantly smaller than a stock Colorado you can pick up new off the lot right now, for example, and that S10 would've been more than good enough for things like basic junk runs to the scrapyard or for hardware store runs for things like bags of sand or whatever.
Some wealthy idiots in Europe will buy a handful of US pick-up trucks. The normal European would not waste their money on the insurance, emission taxes, fuel cost, and maintenance for that junk. Good luck parking it too. I always laughed when I saw a RAM on the Autobahn with the "AF" plates. Aral (Petrol Stations) were delighted when they had to fill it up off base.
Is this a re upload?? I'm sure already saw that video some time ago
He has another video about stupid American trucks, but it's about how stupid they are in America, not that politicians are trying to get them into Europe.
Please let us yanks know how to do the same after you figure this out.
- Your friends across the pond
I wish we had better EV towing vehicles in the US… my lightning is just too fucking big, but it’s the only thing that tows a horse trailer that isn’t a Model X (100K$ starting, 40K$ more than I paid for the Lightning) or a Model Y (barely useable; custom built “euro” trailer required to stay within towing capacity).
Once they run over a few toddlers and cause severe injury in collisions, the insurance premiums will go sky high. And maybe governments will impose greater safety requirements.
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