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[–] 93 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Obama did not deserve that one. Henry fucking Kissinger got one. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke at best, and a bastardization of the idea mixed with horrific propaganda at worst.

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  • [–] 32 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If I remember correctly Obama got it like a couple of weeks into his presidency before having done anything. While continuing a war. So yeah it’s meaningless.

    To give a peace price to any president is laughable

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    He essentially got it for not being Bush.

    Not saying Donnie deserves it but we need to stop pretending that Obama getting the prize is some sort of achievement.

    Honestly wouldn't surprise me if the next elected Democrat president got it either.

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Barack Obama, the first Nobel Peace Prize recipient to instate global mass surveillance and bombard 6 countries.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    “How many Nobel peace prizes does it take to keep a president from extrajudicially killing Americans?” Obama: “At least 2”

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Oh come on now. Obama would never. Obama would say it like this "uhhh.... Well, as, a nobel, uhh, prize winner. I can, with confidence, say that, uhhh, it will take uh TWO, at a minimum, hahaha. And remember to sign up for ACA coverage"

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  • [–] 103 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    American presidents do not deserve a nobel peace prize.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I agree with this one hundred percent. Obama drone strikes took out a lot of civies

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'd wager the majority were civilians.

    I'll never understand how you can justify classifying every male about 16 as a combatant. The US was literally invading other nations and killing their kids. Like specifically targeting them in precision strikes.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I'm not sure how they do that either. I can somewhat understand the fact that the other countries were arming the kids and thus everyone is a threat but there are specific operational guidelines that make it so this is not the case so I agree I don't understand how that is a thing either besides the operational parameters were not correctly articulated.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    were arming the kids

    No no you misunderstand and male that appeared over 16 based on drone footage was considered a target. They didn't have to be armed. The only crime these kids committed was being outside.

    Now how often do you think other people like women and younger children were killed in cold blood and written off as "appeared to be a male over 16"?

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  • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    there are some valid examples to justify calling the Nobel peace prize a joke

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago
    [–] 22 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think most world leaders even deserve a "peace prize"

    Hell, why not nominate me. I literally have 0 kills. I qualify more than literally any US president lmfao.

    Gimme the fucking prize.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Obama approved a program of drone strikes all over the Middle East. Entire weddings were blown up because one terrorist was in attendance. Some drone'pilot' at an air force base in Nevada would just target the whole wedding venue.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Unrealistic reaction from donnie. Psychopaths/ sociopaths never feel shame, regret, sadness or remorse.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    Obama has launched more drone strikes than any other Peace-Prize winner in history.

    He's certainly not the most controversial Nobel winner, but his award was embarrassing in the sense that European intelligentsia was congratulating backward America for electing a black President.

    You may not agree that this was condescending, but it's hard to argue that Obama's legacy is of the peacemaker domestically or internationally.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Obama has launched more drone strikes than any other Peace-Prize winner in history.

    This, of all the things to be critrical of, isnt it (the drone part).

    Less invasive, less troops on the ground, more precise strikes than traditional bombings. Things don't exisr in a vacuums. Drones were a W.

    He’s certainly not the most controversial Nobel winner, but his award was embarrassing in the sense that European intelligentsia was congratulating backward America for electing a black President.

    This hints something about you that you think it was him being black and not him not being bush after bush, and being charming.

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  • [+] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    To be so unwilling to see nuance, that you morphed my opinion into something completely different than what I said, and assumed I fit in your favourite political punching bag box is a problem.

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  • [+] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    No. No I did not.

    To use only that excerpt and ignore that the primary point was that this was harm reduction vs prior actions is to completely misrepresent the point.

    I was clear in that the point was solely about the criticism being in the technology choice, not the foreign policy.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This would be more humorous if Obama hadn’t made the same joke about Trump being president at the White House Press Corps dinner in 2011.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Unrealistic. Trump would be angry and calling him ugly and boy.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    ...the prize is named after a man who caused more destruction than creation, figure this shit out, the whole politic thing is a joke....

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Jesus Christ... It COuLd bE AI!

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