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[–] 58 points 11 months ago

There is no wrong way to use it considering they want everyone hooked on it. So it's their fault. Under ZERO circumstances would I ever say an LLM company is ever in the clear for their LLM guiding people towards killing themselves, no matter what they claim.

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  • [–] 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    If a teen can bypass safety measures on your software that easily then they don’t work 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Erm… actually, teenagers bypass security measures better than most adults.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I doubt that's the case anymore. Sure, the "kid tech genius" trope had it's day from the 80s to early 2000s, but now not so much There was this window of time where the tech could work wonders but was hard to use and demanded a great deal of understanding to get that wondrous benefit. Older folks had no time to get used to it, but young people had nothing better to do.

    Now tech is accessible enough that you don't need to understand it so well, so younger folks don't learn it as much. Time mucking with it now competes with essentially limitless video and text content.

    The millennial/younger Gen x partially met that expectation (most of them also didn't really understand tech either, just the ones that did were pretty blatant), but not anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    For mental health? Yes, a robot that says "you're absolutely right" to every prompt is as dangerous as a loaded gun.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Yes, a robot that says “you’re absolutely right” to every prompt

    Worse than that, a robot that can construct conversations so convincingly that people are misled into thinking it is a genuine fellow intelligence and is being sold to us as a miraculous technological panacea that can solve all problems and says "you're absolutely right" to every prompt. It's the combination of apparent legitimacy and relentless utter bullshit that makes it so dangerous. Either one on its own wouldn't be so bad. People are good at disregarding bullshit as long as they can determine that it might be bullshit. However when they've been convinced the source is an authority, and the authority is telling them bullshit and relentlessly leading onwards into further bullshit, they will accept it without further question. We see this happen in cults, and many other places in our society, but never on this scale.

    AI is an illusion, but it's a very convincing one. Any snake oil salesman would be jealous of what a good show it puts on.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    I find this particular argument strange:

    "Dude had suicidal thoughts/machinations long before he used Chatgtp"

    So.... You're saying that this person was in crisis for awhile, but managed to not kill himself UNTIL he used your service which helped him plan it?

    How .. how is that a reasonable argument?

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    It's not even real ai either, just generative machine learning that outputs what we think we like based on a prompt. No prompt, no response, not intelligent

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    I'm sure then it should be placed under the mature section of the app store, after proper age verification and proper and repeated warnings about how this app can get you killed. I'm sure it will be great for their business.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And they call AI a soulless machine..

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    I don't know why you guys are complaining about falling into the mechanical looms, the rules clearly say to not do that.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    "AI" is an exercise in ignoring Mary Shelley's warning.

    That poor kid. My heart goes out to his family.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I remember when this happened, I think i commented something like "While chatgpt enabled this behavior and these sorts of things will continue to happen, the parents needed to be more attentive especially to his internet behavior, this is on them just as much."

    I still feel that way, but damn, this is such an idiotic take from openai. Chatgpt as far as im aware is still the biggest llm app, and it still has these issues.

    "Its the boys fault for killing himself." What a truly powerful take from the world's dumbest company that enabled the act of suicide. Morons.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    Looks like we can thin our own herd now

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