cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/53625037

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said the world can make progress on a range of issues without the US, and that consensus reached at a Group of 20 (G-20) leaders’ meeting in Johannesburg

At the press conference, he detailed his attempts to strengthen ties with nations ranging from South Africa to India and China.

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[–] 6 points 11 months ago

They haven't really left us a choice.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Venezuela & Mexico beg to differ.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Can't wait for þe MAIA hats: Make America Irrelevant Again

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    [–] 76 points 11 months ago

    Do it. There is nothing particularly special about the voices here. They could do well with getting taken down a few pegs.

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago

    Finally! Yes!

    Now get everyone else on board please! The sooner the US gets decoupled the sooner the rest of us can get back some kind of quality of life.

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    [–] 26 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Okay then, tackle climate change.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    I note the large investiment from Saudi Arabia UAE going towards Canada mentioned in the article; I'm not sure stopping fossil fuels is quite what he has in mind ='(

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago

    That's the most important one. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to compel compliance from major economies.

    Our best chance is what Carney is doing, move on without them in as many domains as possible and wait for the US to collapse or reform, then invite them to the big kids table again.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I'm starting to think the only way to tackle climate change is for the people to start destroying fossil fuel infrastructure, starting with the highest volume targets that take the longest time to replace.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    The world can, and it should. Especially our tech companies.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    The world can, but Canada can't ignore the psychopath who lives in the flat downstairs.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Give it a week, he’ll find a way to coddle the Americans after Trump flips his lid over this.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Carney is an Obama-esque a-hole who says really nice things but, in fact, is going to drive many more Canadians into poverty. (As one would expect from an international banker-turned-politician.)

    But he's not wrong, and what sucks is Americans really don't know how trade deals work, so in a year-ish when all the post-tariff trade deals go in, and the supply chain has rerouted itself around the US, we're all going to be poorer for it except for the handful of billionaires who profited handsomely off the economic chaos.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    Someone else would have been better, but Carney is the best Canada can manage with its dogshit voting system. At least he's a servant of the state and not corrupt dictator wannabe like Trump. (Increasingly not wannabe)

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago (32 children)

    Why do he still support Israel, the US proxy who destabilized the whole middle east?

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    You’re right Canadians should get rid of him and bring in Pierre Poilievre like Americans did Trump to show the liberals!

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    @SatansMaggotyCumFart @mrdown you know what will help Palestinians? a right-wing Canadian government! that will fix your egg (maple syrup?) prices too!

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    @mrdown sowing dissent within anti-authoritarian commmunities is a known strategy employed by right-wingers everywhere.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    It's hilarious to see the curtain falling down today on all these chuds.

    I think most people at least expected, but now it's basically confirmed, these kinds of comments are either from malicious actors or people dumb enough to fall for the schemes of malicious actors.

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  • [+] -5 points 11 months ago (23 children)
  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Are you saying Carney doesnt support Israel? Or that you dont mind that he does?

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I’m saying the people who complain about anyone supporting Israel don’t actually care about Israel or the Palestinians, they care about having ammunition to be used on the west.

    You never hear them complaining about any of the other global atrocities when the west isn’t involved. Uyghurs?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    I complain about China, Russia, Israel , the UAE , the RSF and anybody who is committing atrocities directly or indirectly while you use other genocides to deflect from the one in Gaza .

    Russia and China abstaining from voting the surrender plan in Gaza shows that they do not care about Palestinians like yourself don't. Francesca Albanese exposed China for sending military components and dual-use items to Israel, which makes it complicit in the genocide. Canadian and French weapons was also found in Sudan , a genocide that you love to use against pro Palestinians who also support ending that genocide .

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Show me a comment where you condemn China and not mention the west.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You never talked about the genocide of the Uyghurs except to deflect from the genocide in Gaza so I don't have to proof anything to you

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I asked for a link. Are you deflecting just like you accused me of?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (14 children)

    How supporting Palestinians and Ukrainians and asking for consistency makes me a tankie? Have some shame of accusing other of having alts accounts with no proof

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  • [–] [M] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    We don't allow accusations like this. See the civility rule. Future breaches will result in a temp ban.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    I don't support the destruction of the west , criticizing a countries human rights abuses to support of it do not means . You don't care about the Uyghurs , the Sudanese, the Palestinians, and the Ukrainians you just care about your fake patriotism.

    The last time I criticized China was when they abstained for voting against the surrender plan for Gazans and when Francesca Albanese exposed them . When the last that you criticized the west for not respecting their own values of human right protections no matter who commit human right abuses?

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    “Fuck everyone” isn’t really criticizing China.

    You should spend more time exposing the atrocities around the world that people aren’t as familiar with. Do some good. Be better.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    “Fuck everyone” isn’t really criticizing China. It is.

    You should spend more time exposing the atrocities around the world that people aren’t as familiar with. Do some good. Be better.

    How about yourself following that yourself before preaching to others and not deflect from the genocide in Gaza by using other genocides

    Why you are ignoring the western weapons found in Sudan you hypocrite

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    This is my community it doesn't just talk about Gaza and the community description is

    If you justify the genocide in Gaza, or the war crimes committed by Israel and the IDF, you are not welcome here.

    If you justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine, you are not welcome here.

    If you justify any other oppressor or occupier, you are not welcome here.

    https://lemmy.world/c/apologiafreenews

    I am pretty sure I condemned other atrocities in the world more than you

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I won’t ignore anything from anyone. I have zero allegiances.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You complaining about me wanting Carney to stop supporting a state committing genocide and occupying other for 77 Goddamn years show that you are an hypocrite

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    No, I’m not complaining about that, I’m complaining that you focus the vast majority of your time on one side of the world… For pretty obvious reasons.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    You ain't fooling anybody with your bullshit. It is pretty clear that you are mad about the fact that Carney is a hypocrite who have selective care for human rights and support Israel it is a facts not just assumptions. You no better than the Tankis . They defend Russian and chinese imperialism while you defend the Western imperialism. I also talked about other sides of the world more than you did.

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    [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Also if the liberal party could stop disarming citizens at a time of high threat that d be great.

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  • [+] -12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Mr Carney emphasised that he won’t have his agenda dictated by US President Donald Trump.

    well that's a new welcomed developement because since winning the election, Carney has done nothing but grovel for the idiot king

    let's hope it's not just more politician lies like during the campaign

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Typical, boring Maple MAGA tripe. Yawn.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I voted for Carney... would never vote for PP but what I say is accurate and I can back it up, being a bootlicker for Carney does not get you any points buddy

    Carney has done nothing but appease the Idiot King by giving him everything he wants:

    • Bill C2 Moves Canada towards a police state and hands over the data to Muricans

    • Bill C5 is the "drill baby drill" green light the Idiot King demanded

    • Carney kills Digital Service Tax entirely to appease the Orange Pedophile gaining Canada nothing

    • Carney's first budget is nothing but neoliberal policies, killing any environmental protection (weak as they already were) and paid for by slashing jobs and services... exactly what the Serial Rapist Felon Pressy is doing in Murica

    I have no doubt PP would have made everything worse and with less dignity... but to pretend Carney has done a good job defending Canada or that he has even sustained an "elbows up" attitude as claimed during the election, is sycophantic behaviour

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  • [+] -22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, and I can move on without my legs. Would be a shame to cut them off because of an infected toe though.

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