After unprecedented autism-vaccine messaging change, scientists, advocates say CDC no longer trustworthy : parenting@lemmy.world

After unprecedented autism-vaccine messaging change, scientists, advocates say CDC no longer trustworthy (www.cidrap.umn.edu)

submitted 11 months ago by macncheese@lemmy.world to c/parenting@lemmy.world

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Awful to see the steady dismantling of the CDC. There are doctors and science advocates coming together to scaffold and build up trustworthy sources of info outside of the CDC. I follow epidemiologist Katelyn Jetelina and she has a great newsletter she started up around Covid and has kept going - https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/ She recommends the general public avoid the CDC web site now. She recommends healthychildren.org powered by the American Academy of Pediatrics. Some U.S. states have also partnered together i.e. the West Coast Health Alliance that have pulled away from the CDC recommendations. A friend of mine in health noted it's a big reason why we (I'm in California) can still get our Covid vaccines regardless of age while her sister in Oklahoma was denied. I know there are some North Eastern states that have also partnered up. Going to be very different healthcare messaging to navigate state by state...

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I mean, that ship sailed as soon as the brain worm guy was put in charge.

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[+] Deceptichum 18 points 11 months ago (8 children)

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[+] Madison420@lemmy.world -22 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

Yeah make fun of him for a medical condition, great I guess that's cool because he's a shitheel?

As an aside you don't find it hypocritical to spread medical misinformation while mocking a dude for medical misinformation?

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I recently heard someone say that the problem with making fun of a shitheel for something that they can't help is that you're also making fun of all the people with the same condition. And they don't deserve that.

So I'll apologize to all the people who have become disingenuous dipshits who deny all of science because a worm ate part of their brains.

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[–] Archer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Ironically, ivermectin (at a human dose) might have helped with that

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

The worm didn't eat any part of his brain they push aside brain matter as a cyst until the cyst pops and then there can be some damage, they caught it before that so no issue. He just took some medicine, it died and his immune system flushed it out and brain matter moves back.

He had to disclose it in the divorce because for a time while the cyst is active and growing cranial pressure increases and you get symptoms like brain fog. So that's what I mean by medical misinformation and being irresponsible in a similar way to the way he is.

You should just think about the people who have also been effected and realize you're making fun of the condition not the man.

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[+] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

The worms are dead and gone, you're just spreading medical misinformation and mocking the injury not the man.

You're ok with making fun of medical conditions, that's all you had to say no need to couch it as being righteous disdain.

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[+] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago*

I'll say in don't think it matters if they do or don't. Implying they had any effect of his positions or opinions is verifiably medical misinformation and fairly bigoted at that. Madison Cawthorne is in a wheelchair, is it ok for me to imply that his shitty opinions and positions are because he can't use his legs? Id say no and if you think otherwise I would say that says volumes about you.

It matters, that's just something bigots say to relieve their guilt for being bigots.

Ed: also yes, you. You're that person, saying he has shitty opinions because "worms ate his brain" is both wrong, bigoted and medical misinformation.

So I'll apologize to all the people who have become disingenuous dipshits who deny all of science because a worm ate part of their brains.

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[+] Deceptichum 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

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[+] Madison420@lemmy.world -10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Yes, the "brain worm guy" was a shitheel before he got a parasite that in no way made him the shitheel he is. He was spreading medical misinformation prior to that and that type of cist generally doesn't effect neurology in a major way, and it's actually more common then you'd think in certain parts of the world. So yes, medical misinformation and just a generally shitty thing to do.

You're just insulting other people that have had the same thing happen. How is that hard to see?

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[+] Deceptichum 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

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[+] Madison420@lemmy.world -6 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't say no one idiots abound after all.

That isn't really the issue though. Is it ok to make fun of people for medical issues.

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[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 29 points 11 months ago

There's a reason why data hoarders were archiving the entire CDC website (amongst others) once Don won the election.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 15 points 11 months ago

Killing all the facets of government aside from military is their goal

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Gee, ya think?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

jenny mccarthney jolted this movement for all those white midwest moms, who funnily believe in another pseudoscience thing.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I had lost a lot of faith in it following the COVID debacle, I would just look to the WHO and what other countries are doing. Tragically, these institutions aren't allowed to be independent of politics, and it only undermines trust in science and medicine. One of the reasons fighting back politically is important, because even if you try to ignore it it will eventually ruin everything you care about.