199
Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/technology@beehaw.org
52 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/

Many websites are down, so much for decentralised internet.

top 51 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 79 points 11 months ago (3 children)

maybe it's a bad idea to put the entirety of the backbone of the internet on one or two private companies.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 50 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Cloudflare's dominance is a huge problem exactly for this reason. Having a single point of failure is a huge risk, and it's surprising that governments don't view this as being a matter of national security.

    As a side note, and not to "well ackshully", but Cloudflare isn't a backbone provider. But your point still stands lol.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
    • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 40 points 11 months ago

    Also the irony that some "is it down"-detectors using Cloudflare are also down.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 24 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Who's willing to bet it's DNS ?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
    • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Pretty quiet on lemmy without .world and .ca and whatever else. I'm glad to see beehaw still up.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
    • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The status page is overloaded and just gives http 504 errors. Kind of ironic that a cdn provider gets that type of error.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
    • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Even though I don't host anything important, I'm still glad I found alternative ways to hosting my own stuff without the use of any of Cloudflare services.

    I've noticed over time that the self-hosted communities have been suggesting Cloudflare Tunnels less and less since Trump and his gang took over America. Maybe this latest outage will push more people to not recommend Cloudflare again in the future.

    I still remember when I first got into self-hosting and being mocked pretty hard for questioning the use of such a large centralized service like Cloudflare. I'm glad I persisted and kept learning in my own direction but that still was very demotivating at the time.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I think the only thing that is very had to replicate from cloudflares ia ddos protection since they take the hit instead.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    True.

    My self-hosting strategy is wildly alternative and not one I speak much about publicly. I'm the only person connecting to my own domain so as long as I continue to practice shutting the fuck up, I can get away with using multiple layers of obscurity rather than fiddling with third party solutions.

    I check my logs daily and the only activity I ever see is my own. Since I am not hosting anything critical or sensitive, I have the opportunity to experiment this way without much risk to myself.

    The way I'm set up, I am not concerned with DDOS attacks because it would fail to get past the Dynamic DNS. If I were hosting a social media platform or something more public, then I would need to take stronger measures to protect myself and that data.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The only thing I use CloudFlare for is encrypted DNS stuffs, other suggestions for this?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Currently I'm using DeSec.io for my Dynamic DNS and Caddy as my reverse proxy to automatically handle encryption certificates. It takes a little extra effort setting up a DeSec.io module with Caddy but since I got it working, it's been essentially zero maintenance.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the rec, I'll have a gander, and try it out next day I have free!

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I do want to write up a guide about how to setup Caddy + DeSec.io but I don't have the time at the moment. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I can try to help where I can.

    I'll leave you this previous post I made, you might find some additional information in there if you get stuck. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/51117983

    Also, someone suggested using a wildcard cert for the use of any sub-domain names. I chose to learn and use that because it helps obscure my services. If you have any interest in security, it might interest you. It terms of security, it's not the absolute way to protect yourself, but I think it helps when combined with other security measures. If you read the comments in the post, you should get some more insight about it.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
    • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Europe, pleeeeaaaasssseee! Get off of this infra!

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It is not just Europe the entire world should stop using American companies for everything. Amazon, Microsoft, and cloudflare. A big portion of the internet is US dependent. Russia and China seem to realize how big of an issue this is, Europe still too dependent.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
    • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Had to get that account back as piefed.zip, piefed.social and lemmy.zip cannot be accessed.

    Cool to see other people still able to access the Threadiverse

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
    •
  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Ye we're not relying on cloudflare for precisely this reason.So much of the "decentralized" internet just got brought down by one providing failing.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
    • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

    I'm willing to move away from cloudflare if only I can expose servers without a global IP and needing to open port on the router side. Do anybody know how to do this?

    Or maybe I should move to somewhere I can setup port-forwarding?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 11 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    VPS+VPN, this is what I do.

    VPS has public IP and runs WireGuard "server"* and a reverse proxy (and fail2ban...). Reverse proxy points to my home computer over the WireGuard link. No open ports on my home router.

    For private facing/LAN-only services I just don't have an entry in the VPS reverse proxy. DNS on the router points everything to my local server, so if at home I access everything directly. To access internal services remotely requires VPN (i.e., WireGuard to the VPS).

    Works well; I have a tiny free tier VPS but even so, no complaints.

    *Yes I know there are no wg clients or servers, only peers, but it plays a server-likr role.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I've been thinking about this setup but it depends on external server after all...

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, but you can run multiple VPS, from different providers, simultaneously.

    What I like is that while it does depend on an external provider, it doesn't depend on a specific external provider. Any VPS with a public IPv4 would work.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    You could use something like tail scale

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Tailscale is definitely the most frictionless solution. But you will then rely on tailscale instead of cloudflare, so not ideal. You can also host Headscale so you do not have to rely on them either.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I've never heard of headscale. Can you hook this up to a domain like you can with cloudflare tunnels? That was my main reason for using it. Being able to just hand my family member a domain to point to and see audiobooks

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yes you can, easiest is called tailscale funnel, you'll just get a url leading to whatever you have hosted. Slightly more complicated is either installing tailscale on family devices and use it as a VPN (so your service is safely shielded from the public internet ), or you can use a reverse proxy on a cheap/free tier VPS.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Tailscale is fine, problem is I have to keep my phone connected to the tail network, which drains the battery. I do have a tailscale subnet router running under my network so I can fix things remotely.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
    • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I should really move my domains away from CloudFlare....

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    T-thanks cloudflare!!!

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Gotta get 1 of our 5 a day in :3

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Ah, the famous service that is too big to ever fail, fails again…

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Ahhhh, feels so good to be proven correct.

    Stop using centralised services, especially botnet like ones that protect fascist harassers.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •