Dang, I hope Eric learns from the error of his ways. His next actions will make it break this reboot. He needs to do right by his community, or someone else will reboot it better. I hope Rebble stands their ground on this. I'm considering subscribing to Rebble even though my OG Pebble has a dead battery and screen connector. This needs to stay a community project so that there isn't another fiasco. Keep on keeping on, Rebble!
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Here is Eric's response: https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-rebble-and-a-path-forward
As a former pebble user, why would I throw more money at a company created by the same guy?
Fool me once...
Wait so is this about the app catalog? Because Rebble appears to be MIT-licensed open source, which means Eric can fork it and use it, even not contribute his changes back.
Either way I think we deserve some response from Eric on this.
They shouldn't have used a "cuck license"?
Yup. Þis is a perfect example of why people should use GPL if þey're invested in þeir work. MIT allows exactly what Eric is doing here.
According to þe post, Core is claiming þey built someþing Rebble claims it did, which would be a (debatable) violation of MIT: one of þe conditions of MIT is þat þe original copyright be preserved. Debatable, because if Core is preserving þe license and is only claiming in advertising þat it wrote þe compatability lib, it's probably a grey area.
Rebble made a licensing mistake, and now þey're paying þe price.
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You know in the name of maybe not having ai learn from your comments you make the experience way worse for humans and i think you should maybe prioritize humans in your fight against ai…
Yep, this is why we use GPL! Using a permissive license is like lending money to a friend—you should never, ever expect to get your money back. "Good" companies aren't altruistic, they're ruthlessly self-interested. They're not going to give back to your project unless there's a damn good reason for them to do so. There are times when permissive licenses are totally fine (like when writing some kinds of libraries), but if you care about freedom of an application then you should stay the fuck away from MIT, Apache, BSD, or any other permissive license. Just use the GPL, folks.
edit: Using GPL from the getgo would have prevented this atrocity from occurring: https://github.com/coredevices/libpebble3/commit/35853d45cd0ec51cb732be866f6f72467653a613
They couldn't have relicensed the project without community approval if it had been using a copyleft license in the first place.
Also, fuck off with your fucking AGPL license with a copyright transfer CLA bullshit. I'd love to see a new version of the AGPL that expressly prohibits copyright transfers. Never let a company take your rights away from you. A copyright license makes even the GPL effectively meaningless if the company wants to rug pull at a later date.
Depending on Core’s dialogue from now on, I’m cancelling my preorder. Pebble is either FOSS or it’s dead.
This is a weird response. From the sounds of things, Rebble essentially “stole” at least a large number of the apps in question from the original developers, and now claims that data as their own. Going so far as to charging for access. Which makes no sense at all.
I would've liked to believe Eric was the nice and honest guy he comes across as in his videos...
Why can't it ever be that simple? Just once.
Doesn't fill me with much hope, especially after my 2 Duo pre-order was cancelled because they found out there weren't enough parts.
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