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[–] 48 points 11 months ago (6 children)

correct me if im wrong but you don't have to use this feature if doesn't suit you

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, it's got 256GB or 1TB of internal storage, so you can just use the microSD card to move the game from i.e. the deck to the frame.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It's also easily user replaceable, it comes with the same smaller size m.2 as the steam deck, but will work with full size m.2 cards as well.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Does that go for the Frame as well? I've only seen this confirmed for the Steam Machine. But I could've just missed it.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    Yeah you can use the internal storage and if you still wanted to copy the games across you can always do it over the internet (or LAN). I think Steam does have a built in way to do this now as well or you can just send it yourself as a file with rsync or what ever tool you feel like copy/pasting with.

    You could also store your games on a NAS if you hate yourself (read/write performance will be pretty bad and result in a poor experience for most games)

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Is there a Steam Frame community on the fediverse?

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I think this one is the default. You could make one, though

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Given the size of communities here, it might be better to start a steam hardware community, rather than a niche one that will surely have few contributors.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    My deck got a new hard drive and ate my SD. Which is my fault, but I just never bothered to get a new one. SD card load times were insane

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Not cloud. I love it.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    The biggest problem with microsd cards is they're stuck in 2013, yeah microsd express technically exists but nobody produces cards so no OEMs are willing to support it (except Nintendo)

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    on a deck for me a microsd is for old emulated games. Everything else I'm fine deleting and restoring over the local network from my desktop or from a NAS especially when I plug the thing straight into the router

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (22 children)

    This is peak but at the same time i hate SD cards. Idk how to feel about it 🥀

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    My experience with playing games off an SD card in Steam Deck was... lackluster, shall we say (performance-wise).

    I share your feelings about SD cards.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (12 children)

    I hope someone make something tiny but as good as a SSD in future, SD cards are absolute shit. For me it doesn't even have to be as tiny as SD card, even a credit card sized memory is good

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Uh that already exists, MicroSD Express. It’s essentially a PCIe Gen 3 x1 NVMe SSD under the hood

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (7 children)

    Are they as reliable as an SSD? If not then the problem is still there

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I remember people saying that about SSDs vs HDDs, SSDs were the unreliable newfangled junk. Am I old?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    SSDs are less reliable than an HDD if we speak about lifespan (which is still pretty high) but it's not really a problem for the avarage joe plus they got better in the years and can't be recovered if they break. SD cards are waay less reliable than a SSD and it's a concern for me

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Oh yeah I just found it amusing that the old "unreliable" thing is now being used as a gauge for "reliable enough"

    I luckily have no experience with either breaking for me over 15ish years of active computer usage, so I have no fears or trust issues there yet. I also use cloud saves on steam for everything and I'm lucky enough to live in an area with good internet, so worst case I play a different game while my big game is downloading again after I broke something.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Depends on what metric you look at.

    • Lifetime when stored on a shelf: HDD wins
    • Lifetime while powered: SSD wins
    • Lifetime while constantly writing: HDD wins
    • Lifetime when used in a mobile device that gets thrown around: SSD wins
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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    SSDs also have essentially no wear from reading.

    SD cards just die out quickly because people don’t treat them the same as their internal drive. When you’re replacing the main drive to your most important machine do you go to aliexpress and sort by price low to high? Or do you do some research first and see if it’s a well rated drive?

    SD cards are tiny so getting one in high capacities, speeds, and high write cycles is a lot harder without paying a lot more money. The SD cards I have in my dashcam have been recording 4k + 1080p video almost continuously for 5+ years and they’re still going strong. But I also bought drives rated for that kind of use.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There's already small NVMe drives the size of, say, four SD cards with up to 1-2 TB capacity. So it shouldn't be long I reckon.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    It's an option that you do not have to use.

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah and? I am not making a critique about using it, i am making a critique to SD cards themselves because they are not very reliable and slow

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    That's fair but honestly for most games they're just fine. Also this will work with more than just as cards, any usb drive should act the same, SD cards are just a bit more conventional.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I feel that. When I got my 512 deck I was worried about SD cards and game performance for my more demanding games. I haven't tried it yet but I've seen those NVME enclosures with PD pass-through. Have you ever considered those before? I know it's capped at what USB-C ports can deliver but I'm pretty sure it's better than an SD card...

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