I'm not an American but I can kinda understand why. Gotta tow that line. A good chunk of Americans are on the verge of homelessness and all their healthcare is tied directly to their employment. So rioting, looting grocery stores, etc runs a risk of not only being arrested or killed but also losing their jobs and thus losing their healthcare. The US Government has done a brilliant job over the decades of establishing a system preventing people from revolting.

Now one can argue that other countries would revolt and they'd also lose said things mentioned above because how can you get healthcare if you're actively fighting the system that provides it? But Americans don't know that. They've been conditioned to, again, tow the line.

Add to the fact there's zero leadership for said revolt. Literally none. This isn't like Black Lives Matter where there was an organization rallying everyone. I mean the proof is in the pudding just look at the No Kings protests. when do those happen? on the weekend, on a Saturday, when the vast majority are off work.

Now if those protests happened at 11am on a Tuesday I'd be impressed, but as it stands right now? that ain't happening any time soon. They need leadership, they have none.

I’m consistently reminded of when TikTok got banned, and all of the Americans moved to Rednote. The Chinese users were gracious and accepting of the refugees, and it was a unique chance for them to talk to Americans directly without the governments meddling too much.

They started listing some of the “propaganda” that their government had created. All of it was so outlandish that they didn’t actually believe it was true. So many Chinese people were like “so the government tells us that your healthcare is cripplingly expensive, to the point that people will actively avoid medical care. But you’re the richest country in the world, and you have universal healthcare, right? If you go to the doctor, it’s free.” And all of the Americans had to be like “oh nope. Uhh… No. That one is true. I needed stitches in middle school after a bad fall. My parents gave me a double dose of over-the-counter painkillers, doused the entire thing in rubbing alcohol while I screamed, superglued it shut in our bathroom, and told me they’d beat me if I got tetanus from it. I still have a really gnarly scar from it…”

Then they were like “oh well okay, that sucks. But at least you all have houses. The government tells us you all struggle to afford housing. Housing is so expensive here. It can cost upwards of three years of salary, just for a single family house! The government provides low interest loans, but they’re difficult to save up for when we’re spending 20% of our income in rent… All of you Americans live in gigantic mansions, right? If you can’t afford housing, the government provides a luxury apartment for you until you can buy a house.” And the Americans had to be like “Oh. Uhh… No. That one is… Uhh… Yeah that one is also true. We’re in the middle of a housing crisis, with a few billionaires buying all of the properties and artificially inflating their value so nobody else can afford to buy, then renting them back to us at 70% of our monthly income so we can never hope to save up for a down payment… It is driving a massive homelessness crisis, and many Americans are having to choose between rent and food.”

And then the Chinese people were like “wait they’re having to choose between rent and food? If you can’t afford food, the government gives you food. You don’t need to pay for any of it, because the government takes care of that if you’re too poor.” And all of the Americans had to be like “Oh uhh… Yeah no, government assistance is actually comically difficult to get here, has a LOT of stipulations, and is critically underfunded to the point that the entire system is about to collapse. Food instability rates are reaching all time highs, especially among the homeless and the elderly. And the system is designed to keep poor people poor, by punishing them for making too much money if they do manage to get assistance. Once you get on food stamps, getting off of them is an extremely difficult process… Because as soon as you start trying to raise yourself out of poverty, the government pulls the rug out from underneath you and takes your food stamps away.”

And then the Chinese people went “well at least you can always go get a second job to pay for food, right? Our government tells us you work a ton of hours, but we all know that’s fake. You only work a couple of hours a week, right? Our factory jobs can be pretty grueling, with 12 hour shifts and 72 hour weeks. But most people here just do that when they’re young and fresh out of school, to springboard into better jobs.” And then the Americans had to go “Oh uhh… No. We’re struggling to afford everything even when many people have two or even three jobs. Our pay has stagnated for so long that many people are working 80-90 hour weeks just to barely pay the bills. We have people in “good” jobs who are waitressing on the side to afford their food.”

And at that point, the Chinese people started going “so uhh… Real talk for a second… Why the hell are you guys tolerating this? We would have been lighting fires in government buildings and publicly executing government officials a long time ago…”

And the worst part is that things have only continued to devolve since the TikTok ban happened back in January. Every single thing I posted has gotten much worse since then.

Despite headlines, it hasn't gotten that desperate yet. If nothing changes this month December will likely go down in history books. For now people are still trying to avoid squaring off against the brute squads (ICE), of give trump an excuse to use the regular army against us before they are too hungry to be loyal. When the food banks start running dry is when the violence will start.

Not a sociologist.

Riots need a flash point. The murder of George Floyd is a good example.

So far, there's been a steady grinding down, but no single event brings people together.

As a USian I agree

Because the US government is militarized and has a history of attacking and killing even peaceful protesters.

But these old men they love to vote for are poor scholars of history when they actively are putting millions into positions where they have nothing to lose, after decades of letting the corrupt gun industry arm them with significant fire power. But given there is no leadership for these people this will play out in pockets of random violence and even more authoritarianism by a Fascist government.

Should be around DEC 3 when military commecaries close and the food banks run dry.

People will get shot or go to prison here. They already have for much less. You have no idea how brutal america is to people who inconvience the rich and has been for years. Florida passed laws making it legal to run over protestors. People have go to jail here for life because somebody shot their friend while their friend comitted a crime.

Europeans need to start talking about the ongoing human rights violations in the US and take our sicko country off their mental pedastal.

Also non-US, could it be that the threat of gun violence quells the population into obedience? I know I'd be more than happy to riot here in Australia because I'm unlikely to be shot and killed by a random stranger.

It's coming, but we respect the Constitution, so we have to let it play out, which it is, slowly, but inexorably. The moment is coming when he is going to cross a Red Line, like cancelling or suspending elections or rounding up American citizens for their political or lifestyle differences, and if the Supreme Court allows it, America is officially over.

THEN it's on. But we're still hoping that we can gain some ground on the Midterms, and suppress their cheating strategies enough to win back the presidency in 2028.

Then we better deal with MAGA decisively, or well b just be going through it again in 2032.

If you build it, they will come...

/S

But seriously, everyone wants FDR 2.0 to show up, but they ig ore before we could get FDR, we had a US president sic tanks on protestors, including women and children.

On July 28, 1932, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shot at the protestors, and two veterans were wounded and later died. President Herbert Hoover then ordered the U.S. Army to clear the marchers' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded a contingent of infantry and cavalry, supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

4 months later FDR beat the ever living daylights out of Hoover.

But, and this is important, when FDR won, the protesters didn't just do a 180 and pretend everything was better. They weren't blindly supporting one of two options:

A second, smaller Bonus March in 1933 at the start of the Roosevelt administration was defused in May with an offer of jobs with the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) at Fort Hunt, Virginia, which most of the group accepted. Those who chose not to work for the CCC by the May 22 deadline were given transportation home.[2] In 1936, Congress overrode President Roosevelt's veto and paid the veterans their bonus nine years early.

That reminds me, I have to sharpen my guillotine.

Expired cake mix, you mean.

Are you saying that Donald j Trump, current president of the United States of America, and best friend of Jeffrey r Epstein, rapes children?

I wish we could vote our way out of this but yall gotta start being mean to evil people. Even if is just like pissing on their toothbrush.

No action is too small or passive aggressive as long as you know for sure they are an evil sonofabitch who would rather starve children than not give corporations tax handouts.

So the bloke that apparently solves all wars can't get funding passed? Doesn't have great optics if he's out galavanting does it.

We are territorial animals. Creating a shared enemy for your tribe/pack/herd etc to fear/hate works better than anything, even to the extent you will turn a blind eye to your sides leaders blatant incompetence and corruption. He might be shit, but he’s our shit. We did the same thing when Biden was a gibbering doddery oap, and Labour are doing it now in the UK despite Starmer and Co governing from the sodding right.

Wanna help me do something about it

do anything about it? many who suffer from this will still vote for him because m'uricah

Whether long-range weapon or suicide bomber
Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction
Whether soaraway Sun or BBC One
Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruct
You coulda Caucasian or a poor Asian
Racism is a weapon of mass destruction
Whether inflation or globalisation
Fear is a weapon of mass destruction
Whether Halliburton, Enron or anyone
Greed is a weapon of mass destruction
We need to find courage, overcome
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction

https://youtu.be/uzgBD2wysuI

Does it matter if it's detectable? When he dies it's gonna be a conspiracy that he was murdered anyways.

Nothing that's going to dodge a tox screen, you would want to go accidental. I am a big supporter of some Visine in his coke, but some nitrates would probably cause a heart attack given his likely meds to deal with the swelling.

I've been saying for years that all it takes is one heroic McDonald's worker

What kind of friend are you?! /s

FOOF

They have been very vocal about being after that for a decade.

Let us feast upon richflesh