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[–] 51 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

The search industry continues to undergo big changes. Leta will not be able to follow and will likely become less useful over time.

None of the "Big changes" of late have improved the user experience, absolutely nobody who'd use Leta would complain that it doesn't have AI summaries or whatever other bullshit.

Does this feel like a big cop out to anyone else? How weird...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I doubt they’re referring to feature parity WRT machine learning summaries and the like. “Less useful over time” is more likely a gentle way of saying ungraceful performance degradation.

    Escalation in the SEO wars is accelerating. Various culprits but obviously generative NLP technologies designed specifically to sound human are nukes in this metaphor.

    Any index developer that isn’t willing or can’t afford to continue fighting the war must choose:

    1. host a legacy product that rapidly enshittifies
    2. pull the plug now while it still works

    If the index is the developer’s only product, the only real risk of option 1 is damaging their street cred.

    In OP’s case, the index was not even their core product, so option 2 was the wiser decision.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    No way! Is that why it’s been timing out a lot lately? Oh man, I like Leta. I’ve been using it for several months now. Sigh, I guess it’s back to startpage (and ddg).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I just need a search engine the will also give calculator and unit conversation results. Everything else sounds be search results.

    At this point, it's been too many years that I will just query "76 f in c" or "2500*12/3" from my url bar, so this I appreciate the most modest "intelligence" from my web browser.

    Literally everything else makes my experience worse, though.

    So I'm taking recommendations for more search engines to try out. I don't know why I start page bothers me so much, but it feels like the results my ISP would give me through DNS capture a decade and two ago.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I hope this is a joke, because it's the most useful search engine I have ever used in the past decade.

    Cannot speak for anyone else, but I have been having problems with my preferred SearXNG instances returning garbage results that have nothing to do with what I searched. Before anyone asks, no I am unable to self-host my own personal instance and don't feel like changing settings every time I close and reopen my browser.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    For me disable bing and yahoo make better. And google look like not return result anymore.

    Edit: Setting saved in cookie. If browser autodelete cookie, add exclude for searxng instance domain.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    self-hosting implies making the service available for yourself with tunnels or port forwards. Yet, I've been running searxng container and accessing it via localhost without issues. I could write a guide and share my docker compose file..

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    Misread as their vpn service and had a mini heart attack.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Similar privacy can be achieved through the combination of a VPN and a privacy-focused browser. We have therefore decided to discontinue Leta and continue to advance the development of state-of-the-art of VPNs and browser privacy

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I never knew this SE was even a thing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    This was unfortunately expected.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Kinda expected, I always disable leta when I setup a mullvad browser.

    The biggest killer was not being able to go to the original engine. Let's search for the image of a duck, oh leta doesn't do images, ok open this search in Google... Not a option either. Adds lots of friction

    I like the DDG option of having a g! Escape to Google with my query if I need it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Man I use Mullvad's VPN and their DNS servers and I had no idea they even made this!

    Seems like they didn't advertise it very well I knew about their browser but never heard of this.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So the mullvad browser uses leta as its search proxy obviously.

    What will go in its place / what is recommended to be used with its browser instead?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Bummer, I use Leta

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That was quick

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  • 1 comment in c/privacy@programming.dev view that post
    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's a shame but also I get it. As they say themselves, "Similar privacy can be achieved through the combination of a VPN and a privacy-focused browser" so there's not really a strong need for it I guess, and I'd rather they just cut something that's not working than try to dig in and risk wasting resources that could go towards something more useful.

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