all 71 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 148 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Alan Dershowitz said in July he would blow his brains out on live television if NYC elected Mamdani.

  • source
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Someone should interview him with a loaded gun on the table between them. The interviewer should make no verbal mention of the gun and only quickly glance at it after saying anything.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That sounds like a good way to get shot as a reporter

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    They're all probably dead, wasn't it a war zone wasteland?

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That would be an outcome I'd be happy to see

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Study after study has been done on every election looking for people who publicly say they are moving if their party lost. They found consistently that the number of people who follow through are in the single digits.

    Trump famously said he was going to leave the US when he lost to Biden. We all begged him to go but nope.

    MAGAs have repeatedly said they are going to move to Russia or Argentina or other conservative places only to realize they wouldn't be in the ruling class.

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not everybody has the conviction of flying squids!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is this how I find out he won? OMFG, I'm ecstatic!

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Some people said similar stuff before Trump was elected and while they didn't move there are a ton of people being deported

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Conversely, many who voted for him are leaving the country by being deported. Bet they didn't see that coming, although any moron should have because that is what he campaigned on. They just got what they voted for. Hurray.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Conversely, many who voted for him are leaving the country by being deported.

    The "haha, Trump supporters are self-deporting" always seems to put a veneer of schadenfreude over what is a monstrous crime against a population with virtually no democratic representation. The brunt of these ICE assaults are in liberal cities, targeting black and brown people, many of whom are being punished while in the process of following the law. Agents snatching people at court hearings or while filing visa or green card paperwork. Agents assaulting people at hospitals and schools. Agents snatching parents from their children in line at the airport. The overwhelming majority of these residents can't even vote.

    One of the grossest aspects of modern liberalism is this naive need to believe Trump's policies are some kind of karmic justice. Nothing about this is just. Nothing about it is going to "self-correct". The nation is being raped and pillaged.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Oh, we know. Given a choice, we wouldn't have any of this.

    But seeing these people suffer the consequences of their own actions and then have the gall to whine about it makes it hard to empathize with them specifically.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Moving from a state/city to another is relatively easy, at the cheapest (assuming rental apartment) you can. Move from city to city in the US for around 3-6k depending on distance. Leaving the country is much harder, especially if you have items you care about, pets, family... Etc.

    Also fuck him its my home the can leave if its so bad. That's like having a shitty houseguest for an evening and just ceding the property to them.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I first saw this each time Bush was elected. So many people vowed to move to Canada if that bastard got elected.

    Then the bastard got elected. And Canada reported like a tiny spike in traffic to their immigration information website. I think actual applications were up a statistically insignificant amount.

    I guess it’s like the difference between filing for bankruptcy and Declaring It, Michael.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They're gonna move to Florida for a few months, then when they realize they hate it there they'll move to North Carolina to tell us all about how they did things up north.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe you should do a reverse-Kirk. Find all those who wanted to leave and expose them publicly, document them if they have actually left the city or not.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They're leaving NYC like a lot of those folks who said they were leaving America if Trump won are moving to... I dunno... wherever they were planning to go.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Talking to a friend in NZ - he says there's been a big influx of Americans, welcomed by tech firms because at the same time a lot of skilled NZers are leaving for Australia. I'm told some of the wealthier tech bros, eg Peter Thiel, are building bunkers in NZ ready for the apocalypse.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Pff.

    Same people driving around NY all year with Florida, Georgia, and Carolinas license plates. They’re already tax dodgers and don’t have their permanent address as NY.

  • source
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Feature not bug.

  • source
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Land of the free….USA

  • source
  • [+] -63 points 1 year ago* (19 children)

    I admit that I'm moving away for other reasons but I'm certainly more enthusiastic about moving now. (With that said, I'd be happy to leave Cuomo behind almost as much.) But I'm moving to the Bay Area so it's not much of an improvement in terms of politics. I miss New Hampshire.

  • source
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Why not live in New Hampshire then?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because it's #3 in the nation in per capita impact of opioid use disorder, after West Virginia and Ohio?

    Fact is, these places that MAGA wants to label as hellholes are the cultural and economic engines of our country. Even places like Texas are driven entirely by their urban blue counties.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do you want to be around other New Hampshireans?

    Manchester is the state putting up a "normal" face, everything north of there gets fiercly independent and rural pretty quick. This was the state that tried to create a libertarian utopia that failed due to a bear problem.

    Love New Hampshireans, love the state, but yall are scary.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    To be fair to New Hampsire: it was the libertarians across the USA who wanted to take over the state (then had to scale back their plans and took over one tiny town). The state government and the majority of state residents were not enthused by the Free State Project. However, the state's politically-conservative roots meant that they didn't have the cultural or administrative tools to stop that train-wreck.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Serious answer to a rhetorical question: Because I was willing to give up the advantages of living in a big city (for me, chiefly better access to jobs) but my family and friends weren't. Most of them aren't politically aligned with Mamdani supporters but they have more affection for urban life than I do and they're more pragmatic than I am too - even if they think a politician will make things worse, they're not going to move away unless and until things do get worse.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    my family and friends ... they have more affection for urban life

    Affection for what about it though? 🤔 Why NYC and the Bay Area specifically? There are plenty of areas that offer an "urban life" experience.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    For most of them, NYC because it's where the family first came as immigrants. If we had come to a different city, then I think they would probably be living there instead, but NYC specifically does have advantages for them: a very developed mass transit system, a large community of other immigrants who speak the same language for the older people, and whatever it is that some people like about big-city life that there's more of in NYC than elsewhere for the younger people. (I'm the kind of guy who told my real estate agent "I'm moving to Manhattan for work but I don't like Manhattan and I want to live in a part of it that doesn't feel like Manhattan" so I don't really know what that is.)

    For my best friend, the Bay Area because of the gay community and the fact that this is the place to be if you want to found a tech startup. (Plus he would never leave California because the climate everywhere else is so much worse, and that limits his options.) My sister also lives in the Bay Area - she came here for a job and for the larger dating pool but now that she's married she's planning to move away to somewhere with a lower cost of living and less crime. She's more liberal than I am but local politics matters a lot less to her than those practical factors, so her next job interview is in Texas.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sooooo a functioning economy, public services, and progressive culture. Got it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I never said NYC had nothing going for it. On the contrary, NYC is currently one of the best cities in the USA. That's why I wanted a "more of the same" mayor rather than someone who thinks dramatic changes are necessary.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    EDIT: this gif was in response to the original comment ("NYC will get worse unless Mamdani fails to achieve his policies") before they edited to completely change their comment

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Have you read the book “A Libertarian Walks Into A Bear”? It’s quite entertaining.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    I'm familiar with it (although I haven't read the whole thing) and I think it's not representative of what living in New Hampshire is actually like. I went to college there and then more recently I lived there for four years. Some stuff was weird even to me (my neighbor set up an improvised firing range behind his house, and driving without car insurance is legal) but overall the towns where I lived seemed well-governed and most people valued their independence but not to the extent that they would reject the rules necessary for an orderly society. What some weirdos did when they came to New Hampshire says more about weirdos than it does about New Hampshire or lowercase-L libertarianism (as opposed to the Libertarian party, which is marginal even in New Hampshire).

  • source
  • parent