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The Globe and Mail column, “Let’s free ourselves of the U.S. and forge closer ties with China”, by Julian Karaguesian and Robin Shaban, reveals a troubling lack of historical awareness and strategic judgment.

Marketed as a call for Canadian economic independence, it amounts to an argument for deeper dependence on an authoritarian regime that uses coercive diplomacy, illicit finance and political interference to erode democratic sovereignty.

Canadians should reject the notion that closer alignment with Beijing strengthens our independence. The opposite is demonstrably true.

The authors praise China’s economic dynamism and technological progress but ignore the context in which these gains were made. They are not the result of fair-market innovation, but of systematic intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers and vast state subsidies that distort global competition.

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Proposing deeper technological engagement with a regime known for embedding backdoors in products like Huawei hardware, which Canadian security agencies have flagged as a national security risk, and for weaponizing supply chains is dangerously naïve. This isn’t innovation; it’s strategic infiltration that introduces unacceptable risks into Canada’s economic infrastructure.

Equating Canada’s alliance with the U.S. to strategic subservience misrepresents the nature of cooperation in a rules-based international order.

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Beijing has made clear it does not operate as a predictable or principled partner. Its use of retaliatory diplomacy — such as the politically motivated detention of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, bans on Canadian agricultural exports and the expansion of United Front influence operations (covert and overt efforts by the Chinese Communist Party to sway public opinion and policy abroad)—demonstrates a pattern of intimidation.

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Replacing that [U.S.] alliance with exposure to a regime that jails dissidents, manipulates international institutions and conducts cyberespionage on Canadian citizens is not diversification. It’s submission.

Canada should not trade the open architecture of the Atlantic alliance for Beijing’s authoritarian opacity. Strategic autonomy cannot be built on intimidation and coercion. We must engage the world, but with eyes open and principles intact.

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[–] 14 points 1 year ago

All of those has been doing by the USA too but we were fine with it we have selective values

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    a regime that jails dissidents, manipulates international institutions and conducts cyberespionage on Canadian citizens

    Sounds like they are talking about the USA...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This entire article is horseshit and is championing trade with the US over China while every single one of its claims against China can equally be applied to the US, and it ignores the very real and very present threats of force and fascism that is the current US.

    Last I checked China hasn't threatened to invade Canada. China's trade policy with Canada has been fairly tit-for-tat and China only retaliates economically when Canada gives in to pressure from the US with punitive trade measures towards China.

    Better to trade fairly with China despite their problems than the US which demonstrates complete disregard for their allies, their current trade deals, and the rule of law, not to mention their extremely regressive policies on the environment and social freedoms.

    China isn't perfect but no country is and Canada cannot solely trade with democracies in the Europe if it wants to have a viable working economy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Puppetting Canada would be a massive, massive coup for any intelligence group on the planet. The trick for Canada will be to take a bunch of gifts and trade benefits but never commit to anything. Its the best way to make Trump look like an idiot too.

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 1 year ago

    That's an absurdly weird comment There is no such thing as a 'fair trade' with a dictatorship like China that engages in economic coercion, espionage on citizens, transnational repression, election interference, just to name a few examples. China is the exact opposite of the 'social freedoms' as you argue. You don't seem to understand what's going on in this country and the economy.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Im sure whoever wrote this is somehow still in favor of US trade unless their very real and normal take is that Canada should cease trade with the largest two economies on the planet at the same time. Good for yall if you can manage that but something tells me thats not viable.

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  • Why would anyone write this much nonsense? The literate thinking folk understand this is nothing but American spin, the rest only respond to catchphrases and memes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Looks like USA under orange man in my opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Canada is just trying to make the US jealous, but it secretly wants to be It's favorite puppet state.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 1 year ago

    As an addition:

    Responding to questions about Canada's pursuit of increased trade with India and China despite Canadian intelligence agencies reporting political interference, European Union Commissioner for Democracy, Justice, the Rule of Law and Consumer Protection Michael McGrath says that 'where you have evidence' of foreign interference from a nation looking to do more trade, 'you have to address it.' McGrath argues the EU and Canada should be working more closely on online risks: 'Our democracy is under threat.'

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Everything in that headline describes the US or the UK, and probably every other “western” nation too

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    What's important for people like Carney and the neo liberals is the bottom line, which is the economy. Profits. The sooner the better. You gotta show positive growth during this quarter or risk losing your shareholders and investors.

    You think the economy cares about morals? About ethics? About human rights? About environmental protection? Hell, all of those at hindrances. If they could have slavery and dump their shit all over the place without consequences, they would.

    This is capitalism.

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Please read the report before posting. It is China that jails dissidents, manipulates international institutions and spies on Canadian citizens.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Canada kills indigenous people, they genocided them as well.

    Canada hides that fact by pretending to be nice.

    Canada applauded a literal Ukrainian Nazi in their parliament just a few years ago for fighting against the Russians in WW2.

    Canada is just as bad as all the other countries in the world when it comes to human rights.

    Let's not fool ourselves.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    @Tiger666@lemmy.ca

    Canada is just as bad as all the other countries in the world when it comes to human rights.

    This is, of course, rubbish.

    That aside, I am not sure what you want to say with this and your other statements.

    Should Canada ignore the U.S.' bullying and coercion now?

    Or only China's bullying and coercion?

    Shouldn't Canada improve its democratic institution 'to not fool ourselves'?

    Just business as usual as if nothing happened?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Shouldn’t Canada improve its democratic institution ‘to not fool ourselves’?

    You seem to actively post pleas to keep Canada accepting US propaganda on who Canada's enemies should be.

    Jailing dissidents Are any of the people jailed trying to improve China, or are they US paid trolls, like you?

    Canada is currently supporting a US war/murder rampage on Venezuela that has no valid pretense. It fully validates any lie the POTUS makes up to attack anyone, which he is using against Canada right now.

    Scumbags who write and promote such Op Eds do so to force Canada to only rely on investment blessed from their/our colonial master, and we must all die waiting for it to happen as our only option.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So should Canada ignore the U.S.’ bullying and coercion now? Or only China’s bullying and coercion?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Canada, as US colonial lapdog, has history of bullying China. Canada should stop bullying China and get closer to humanist world. It is ONLY by distancing from US on militarism that US can reduce its overall evil, or at least treat Canada as a better slave for cooperation with its evil.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Canada ... has history of bullying China

    How did Canada do that?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Huawei VP arrest, Philippines defense pact, following US orders on EV tariffs with no contact whatsoever with China. All of the baseless US propaganda against China getting repeated. Foreign interference absolute BS, compared to CIA allegiance of every political party leader. The absolute evil of this Op Ed, or your previous posted one, that Canada must continue lap dog yapping at China to DETER it from responding to Taiwan lap dog provoking war on China. The BS that China might want Arctic resources means we must build military centered around fighting humanity in Arctic instead of inviting China to make investments we have no intention to. It's all abhorrent demonic traitorous evil to anchor ourselves to a sinking US ship.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    Canada has supported anti-China policies for a very long time. Longer than it has been Canada, in fact. What club is Canada part of? What is the opium wars? Let's talk about Hong Kong. Boxer rebellion anybody? Please stop swallowing American and Western propaganda and think for yourself.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    As an addition:

    Responding to questions about Canada's pursuit of increased trade with India and China despite Canadian intelligence agencies reporting political interference, European Union Commissioner for Democracy, Justice, the Rule of Law and Consumer Protection Michael McGrath says that 'where you have evidence' of foreign interference from a nation looking to do more trade, 'you have to address it.' McGrath argues the EU and Canada should be working more closely on online risks: 'Our democracy is under threat.'

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    [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago

    As an addition:

    Responding to questions about Canada's pursuit of increased trade with India and China despite Canadian intelligence agencies reporting political interference, European Union Commissioner for Democracy, Justice, the Rule of Law and Consumer Protection Michael McGrath says that 'where you have evidence' of foreign interference from a nation looking to do more trade, 'you have to address it.' McGrath argues the EU and Canada should be working more closely on online risks: 'Our democracy is under threat.'

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  • So, anarchist isolationism?

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