If you're in the market for a replacement service, I can recommend Qobuz. Switched to them a while ago and they're great, and apparently pay the artists really well.
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Spotify also records fake music for their platform. So there is another reason you should have ditched them sooner.
Not recorded per se as that would require actual work, but they both push and produce AI slop, demonstrating an uncompromised willingness to piss on the graves of some of my personal heroes.
Qobuz and piracy both offer more ethical alternatives to Spotify. Spotify are not just not paying artists, they are actively sabotaging them and investing their riches in weapons and disinformation.
Fuck Spotify. Make sure to set up your Qobuz account before deleting your Spotify account—that way you'll be able to keep your playlists.
I’m not referring to AI. I’m talking about actual music that was recorded and released on the platform under the name of multiple artist and song titles to trick users into believing they were listing to a real recording artist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_over_fake_artists_on_Spotify
If you are willing to curate your own collection and have a little techical knowhow:
You can set up a Navidrome server and enjoy high quality music streaming with no subscription costs
I fairly recently set up a NAS with Jellyfin, replacing google photos and Spotify have been on my to-do list for quite some time but they've been pretty far down on the list. Replacing Spotify just got bumped up. I'll check out Navidrome.
replacing google photos
Immich makes replacing Google Photos pretty easy. The UI is very similar and the desktop and mobile apps are pretty solid. Multi-user support is excellent if your friends or family also wanted to try it out.
I wish Navidrome (and more self-hosting apps in general) didn't assume you were the only user on the service...
Since you already have jellyfin, try it with music using the beta finamp client. Works like a charm and will save you having to spin up another service.
I managed to get a pretty decent collection going, accessed through Navidrome and have to admit I wasn't a fan. Artwork missing, multiple profiles for the same artists, the inability to remove albums that were no longer on the server. The whole thing just felt like a struggle.
Then the disk my collection was on kicked the bucket, and hadn't gotten around to setting up backup, so I'm starting over from scratch 😅
Bit miffed Navi is still what people are recommending 😔
Sucks that this has been your experience and admitted it does take a bit of work to set it up nicely.
The documentation of how artwork is detected and ways to fetch it automatically from online sources you can find here
The multiple profiles thing happens Because Navidrome is very tag dependent to understand music. I have a few collections where the band slightly evolved their name/spelling where this happened.
The difference between “artist/albumartist” and the “compilation” tag need to be set correctly and uniformly for that to be fixed, which depending on the source can take some work.
My own strategy is to start with a small server And gradually expand it. Make sure the tags are ok, the art is correctly named in the right spot.
I still have a lot of music i haven’t processed
For the music that did get processed, things are stable and reliable as rock, require no maintenance and performs very well.
The removed albums thing Is a weird one though, using the full rescan off all files and data button I have never experienced this.
Thank you for the suggestions! I'll give it another go, see if I can make it work 👍
I was using Symfonium as my client on Android, maybe that was part of the problem.
I used Beets for processing/tagging, which was also troublesome; never could get it to do anything on its own, had to manually initiate every session, and lots of stuff needed handholding to get tagged correctly. Never could get Picard to work at all, neither in Docker nor on my desktop.
Finally managed to have a go at a new collection, and think I ended up with a setup that isn't all that bad 😊
- Lidarr (Plugin Edition).
- Tubifarry plugin (so much better than my last attempt, which was with Soularr).
- Tubifarry uses SLSKD as indexer and client.
- Set up an extra metadata profile in Lidarr with most release formats added, for those rare occasions where I need to find something obscure for a specific artist.
- When needed, I manually tag and import files. I haven't had good experiences with Beets or Picard (neither desktop nor Docker version), so for re-tagging I just use Kid3 on my Mac, accessing the music files in situ on the server. Most things go pretty smoothly, though, and I just use Lidarr for renaming files (and moving, if necessary).
- I've made sure that Lidarr has access to a Bin folder, though, for those occasional times when it decides to just randomly delete something 🙄
- For Navidrome, I've figured out that the best way to fix missing album art is to just add it directly to the music files through Kid3.
- For persistent missing files in Navidrome, I've realised there's a 'Missing files' function when you click the profile icon (top right), and this solves a lot of the gripes I had with Navi previously.
- For playback, mainly on Android, I'm using Symphonium, which seems happy as long as Navi's happy.
All in all, I think I've got everything a bit under control this time around 😊
Now I just need to remember to get the backup situation under control ... 🫣
Again, thanks for your help! ❤️
Yeah I've switched to Tidal when I read about it. It's a shame, in terms of usability Spotify is definitely ahead, but I would rather use an inferior product than pay nazi supporters
Wasn't Tidal started by Kanye?
Edit: nvm, Jay Z.
No. At one point it was owned (partially? majority? don't recall) by Jay-Z, who sold most of his stake later on to a different company that has its own problems, but as far as I know isn't nearly as bad as Daniel Ek and all the AI generated music and "fake" artists issues plaguing Spotify.
As another user commented, it was started by JayZ. It is still American, so I also tried Soundcloud, but it had too many things missing sadly, especially in terms of soundtracks. So Tidal will do for now.
Bandcamp has a great app.
Is this a joke?
I love bandcamp and it has been my primary source of music for 10 years at least but in that time the app has not changed, not improved and is still fucking shite.
The only thing they have changed in that 10 years is adding a playlist feature.
Don't even get me started on how you cannot access the messaging system via a browser and can only access it in app.
I find it works fine for playing albums, and that's usually how I want to listen to music.
I now have a Qobuz subscription which does all the other discoverability stuff when I can't be arsed to read the Bandcamp curations.
For the most part it will play albums fine until it doesn't and won't load the next track getting stuck in a perpetual loading loop and requires being restarted. That is my experience anyway and whilst it doesn't happen all the time it is often enough to just be a little annoying.
For the most part though playback is decent and so if that is your primary use I can see that it would seem like an OK app.
If however you do a lot of your discovery and new music listening on there as I do your opinion would probably be quite different. The search function is dog shit and navigation is horrendous, there are so many illogical decisions. Also the fact that if you click a bandcamp link within the app itself it opens it in a browser rather than opening it in app is absolutely infuriating and has been that way forever.
Unfortunately qobuz still has a some what lack lustre library for my specific niche genre choice but it is getting better and I keep checking it so hopefully soon it will have caught up, although their search is a bit shit as well clumping artists that have the same name but are certainly not the same artist together as one.
Annoying that our experiences are so different. Makes it hard to recommend since there might be hardware issues.
I won't discount hardware issues but my experience is consistent across 6 different phones now so make of that what you will.
All of this aside I still wholeheartedly recommend bandcamp, I still think it is best for both variety of things available (particularly for niche genres) as well as artists actually getting paid.
The app still works absolutely fine I just would never describe it as "great" personally, it is just annoying because a lot of the issues I have could be resolved fairly easily and have been present for many many years at this point.
There are a lot of reviews that say the app is garbage, but everything works fine on the website.
I switched to Deezer a few months ago. It is also European, but is not unethical as far as I've been able to find. Sadly, almost nobody uploads their podcasts on there though.
If you want something free, Spotube has a plugin system now so you can use ListenBrainz (FOSS-friendly and knows more tracks than Qobuz, IMO recommendation system is also more interesting) for the library data, which uses a yt-dlp/Newpipe backend (they have adding alternative backend platforms on their radar). It's buggy right now though.
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