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[–] 73 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Why the death penalty?

Suspected Nazis should be given community service to work in soup kitchens, clean graffiti and pickup trash and such in majority black and brown neighborhoods.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I watched a documentary about one who worked in a prison laundry and got better but his brother didn’t.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    graffiti is a important rebellion tool though i think cleaning the sewers by hand with toothbrushes is more fitting

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I mean, yes and no. I live where gang tags and random acts of vandalism are rather a frequent occurrence so when I say graffiti removal, I'm thinking that. Things like that only work to harm our neighborhood, defacing our storefronts and public transit and making people feel less safe in their community.

    But yes, some forms of graffiti are expression and art. Nazis would take pleasure in removing that we aren't for that, of course.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because we need to be rid of them once and for all. It's too risky to let them live

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I have faith that it's possible to reform at least some of them, even if it's not everyone

    A lot of what gets people into these beliefs is environmental factors and the beliefs of those around them

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Really hate to be the shithead here but there were a lot of people without Nazi tattoos who were goaded into voting for Nazis because they got accused of shit preemptively. And the Nazis were just glad to welcome them aboard.

    Yes I still blame them but also maybe we should examine that impulse a little.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It’s my understanding that the Nazi party was in fact not voted into power. It was a hostile takeover.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Somewhat? The murders of political rivals were violent and the following holocaust but most things leading up to those largely happened with the German people's consent, which fascistic governments are effective at gaining.

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  • It was pretty hostile but there was a lot of democratic process and the key thing was the ratcheting up over a good 10 years before they really went for power. They would take small pieces of power and grow their control incrementally until they had too much momentum for any other group to deal with them. Also some groups thought they could use them to their advantage and reign them in when things were sorted. They were getting the highest votes but it was a mixture of a lot of things and they pretty quickly stopped being democratic votes after the first few elections. Lots of propaganda, a large amount of coercion at least initially, some blindness and unforeseen consequences but a decent portion of the population supported the whole thing. At least that's my understanding.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The same way they knew they were ms13 gang members, duh.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Reminds of how some self professed "anarchists" insist on capital punishment, like an unwitting opposame, to, e.g. nazis, not realising/admitting what they're really engaged in is another form of malarchy, not anarchy. Reminder, malarchism is not anarchism.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're just horny to kill people.

    Kinda like a... fucking Nazi.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    If you execute people for holding views you don't like you're no better than a Nazi.

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    Please quote the part where Karl Popper suggests executing people.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This paradox was articulated by philosopher Karl Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945),[1] where he argued that a truly tolerant society must retain the right to execute those who promote intolerance.

    At least, that's what the op apparently read.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You intentionally misquoted. You wrote:

    where he argued that a truly tolerant society must retain the right to execute those who promote intolerance.

    But the real quote is:

    where he argued that a truly tolerant society must retain the right to deny tolerance to those who promote intolerance.

    Why did you do this?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Perhaps death is too far but name, shame, and ridicule until they stop speaking Nazi rhetoric, until they are afraid to spread their opinions. The world fought a war about this and we all agree the idea of massacring millions for their religious views is a bad thing. I'm looking at you Israel, just because your peoples were victims once doesn't mean you cant turn around and become the evil you once feared. As a society we must deny tolerance to those who would take advantage of said tolerance and promote intolerance

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Not a tankie, try again.

    So the partisans who killed Mussolini are supposedly just as bad as Mussolini and Georg Elser just as bad as Hitler, or what? /s

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, they were rightly fought because they had active roles in the mass murder of millions of innocent people. Your argument is a strawman; the post is advocating for the murder of people based on their views, not theit actions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Nazi: I want to create an ethnostate and genocide the people I consider inferior.

    Anti-nazi: Well then I'll kill you to prevent you from doing that.

    You for some reason: both these positions are equally bad.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The USAian view again:

    • you don't agree with me? you must be an enemy
    • enemies have to die

    Can't be anything other than extreme. Absolutely everything is is black and what, right or wrong. You're absolutely right or you're absolutely wrong. There's no in between. Trying to find a middle ground means you're not agreeing with me --> you're a nazi/communist/liberal/tankie.

    USAians man...

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago

    Apparently people with Nazi tattoos are progressive these days

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